From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-z (Re: Two GTK related feature requests) Date: 29 Oct 2003 16:03:05 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oew8so3g.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067436798 5961 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 14:13:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ke@gnu.franken.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 15:13:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEr4W-0006bP-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:13:16 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEr4V-0000QO-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:13:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqwI-0006Sl-0d for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:04:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEquP-00067V-Td for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:02:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqtm-0005kd-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:02:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqsq-0005Jy-V3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:01:13 -0500 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on 29 Oct 2003 08:30:54 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17546 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17546 > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: 29 Oct 2003 08:30:54 -0500 > > Given the fact that iconification is normally done via the window manager > rather than via Emacs commands, and given the fact that we all seem to > agree that C-z is only ever used by mistake, I'd argue that we should > make either C-z or maybe even iconify-or-deiconify-frame into a "wizard" > command like narrow-to-region, capitalize-region, and eval-expression > which requires confirmation unless explicitly enabled. Or maybe simply remove the binding in a windowed session.