From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: File menu changes (suggestions) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:40:40 +0200 Message-ID: References: <85mzpbtvjm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119905584 24083 80.91.229.2 (27 Jun 2005 20:53:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 27 22:53:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn0aS-0000Fg-Nq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:52:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn0iA-0008QA-5d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:00:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn0eD-0007Cf-Q8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn0e8-0007Ap-Op for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn0e8-00074T-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dn0Tf-0007HG-Fz; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-206-187.inter.net.il [80.230.206.187]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id EST19686 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:40:44 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <85mzpbtvjm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:05:33 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39691 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39691 > Cc: miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: David Kastrup > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:05:33 +0200 > > > To me, it means that a window (``frame'' in our parlance) that was > > previously split into two or more parts now becomes "unsplit", i.e. we > > are left with a frame that has only one window. > > If you prefer that verb, I'd rather say something like "Unsplit all" > or something like that to make obvious that it is not symmetric with > "Split". As Jason and myself tried to explained, it _is_ symmetric, just perhaps not in the sense that you think. It makes something that was split be unsplit. And that something, which we call ``frame'' is called ``window'' elsewhere. So, "Split Window" and "Unsplit Window" is the natural choice. (We actually say "Unsplit Windows" instead, to avoid calling the frame ``a window''. But to me, that subtlety is secondary in this case; I'm quite sure many, perhaps most, users of the menu don't even notice it.)