From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Folding emacsclient into emacs Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:39:27 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87d4wodiof.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ir6gtx7w.fsf_-_@olgas.newt.com> <85bqc7hfau.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <86hclzuhyp.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86abrruhb3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86myvrszq5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189683585 23322 80.91.229.12 (13 Sep 2007 11:39:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 13:39:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IVn2s-0005zQ-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:39:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVn2s-0005XT-7A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:39:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVn2p-0005XN-Cz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVn2m-0005X8-W7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVn2m-0005X5-Ot for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:39:36 -0400 Original-Received: from heller.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IVn2g-0003HS-Kz; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:39:30 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-21-14.inter.net.il [80.230.21.14]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id DPQ63164 (AUTH halo1); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:39:28 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <86myvrszq5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:04:34 +0200) X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78765 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: David Kastrup > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:04:34 +0200 > > > I was replying to what you wrote, viz: > > > >> >> Are you saying that users should be punished if the first thing they > >> >> want to do with Emacs is "merely" edit a file? > > > > If I misunderstood what you meant, perhaps you should write more > > clearly and shout on others less vociferously. > > What about "first thing" did you not understand? I didn't understand it as an important enough part of your message, it seems. It's ambiguous. > > But making that point doesn't mean we should use preposterously > > wrong arguments such as that Emacs can be restarted whenever we need > > to edit a file, or that when there's nothing to edit there's no need > > to have Emacs running. > > Where did I write or even imply that Emacs should be restarted > whenever we need to edit a file? You didn't, but others did. You shouldn't take everything as aimed on you; this is a discussion thread with many participants. > And you complain about me "shouting vociferously" when you put such > nonsense into my mouth I didn't put it in your mouth. And even if I did, being wrong does not yet mean being rude. > As I said: there is enough room for disagreement about the things > actually being written. No need to invent any of your own for me. Likewise.