From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:15:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <18155.45363.116982.273374@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20070916044109.GA9564@www.trapp.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189973756 12529 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2007 20:15:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mathias@mnet-mail.de, wilde@sha-bang.de, hannes@saeurebad.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 16 22:15:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IX0Wz-0001ZO-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:15:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IX0Wy-0005P6-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:15:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IX0Wv-0005Ov-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IX0Wv-0005Ob-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IX0Wu-0005OY-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IX0Wq-0004f5-UC; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-127-106.inter.net.il [84.229.127.106]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id IXB14836 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:15:26 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20070916044109.GA9564@www.trapp.net> (tomas@tuxteam.de) X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79044 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:41:09 +0000 > Cc: Mathias Megyei , juri@jurta.org, > wilde@sha-bang.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, > hannes@saeurebad.de > From: tomas@tuxteam.de > > It's rather > > emacs > > versus > > emacs [wait until Emacs is up] C-x C-f Why would you need to wait for Emacs to come up on a modern machine? The only use case I can think of that really causes a long startup is when you use desktop.el to save and restore the last session. But in that case, you probably don't want to specify a file on the command line anyway, since desktop.el would already visit the files you want. But if there are use cases that I'm missing, how about using emacsclient instead, as I suggested? > The issue becomes somewhat grotesque when calling Emacs from some other > process, e.g. via the EDITOR shell variable (that's why I have > EDITOR=vim in my environment). Now, _that_ is precisely what emacsclient is for. We even say so in the manual (see the node "Emacs Server").