From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Don't report new bugs for Rmail?? Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:54:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20090131104403.GQ4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20090131211929.GT4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233438890 5350 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2009 21:54:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Don Armstrong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 31 22:56:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTNon-0002FN-Vd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:56:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36042 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTNnV-0008Bw-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTNnQ-0008Br-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTNnO-0008Be-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45387 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTNnO-0008Bb-Ga for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:11242) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTNnN-0006hc-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:33 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KEC00M00VF0NT00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:54:52 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.109.18]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KEC006C5VJFIV51@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:54:52 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20090131211929.GT4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108479 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:19:29 -0800 > From: Don Armstrong > > On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Juanma Barranquero > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Sorry, I'm not following: if there's no Rmail package, how come > > > > the bug tracker finds bugs by that package? What am I missing? > > Because there are bugs assigned to that package. But you just said that a package named "rmail" does not exist, didn't you? > If rmail (or anything else) is going to be used as a valid package to > assign bugs to, it should have a maintainer, and whoever wants it > created should tell me that they want it created and what the > maintainer is. Rmail's maintainer is "FSF". Which means that Emacs maintainers are collectively responsible for maintaining Rmail. > > Fine, but the "don't submit bug reports" request is misleading and > > should be removed or rephrased, IMO. > > Bug reports against packages that don't have a maintainer shouldn't be > submitted Well, that request can easily be interpreted as meaning that bug reports against Rmail are not welcome. I think this is not what we want to say. > In this case, the error is that no one has asked for the rmail > package to be created. It's IMO inconsistency to allow bugs be filed against a package that doesn't exist.