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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: divya@subvertising.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Emacs website, Lisp, and other
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:56:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-fd8e63e2-3a6e-4db7-96db-be28690ac082-1722858984944@3c-app-mailcom-bs04> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81ad0094dfd15b7f2c5c51da0643bf7a@subvertising.org>


> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2024 at 11:37 PM
> From: divya@subvertising.org
> To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other
>
> > Hardly. If anywhere, Lisp is stronger at universities.
>
> Hello, I've been reading the last few exchanges and this strikes to me
> as intriguing. Which univerisities are you aware of, other than the
> places where Felleisen, Friedman et.al (Racket folks) have been active
> to have a serious Lisp-based approach? You no longer have that in MIT in
> any serious capacity either, except a few grad PL Theory classes, one
> doesn't really interact with Lisp in any considerable capacity. And this
> is not really news, even Sussman (co-author of SICP, taught at MIT)
> acknowledged the wave of changing to Python from Lisp[0].

I fully agree.  But, the use of Python in universities is also misguided.
In the sense that python codes emanating from universities have hardly any
value, other than the productivity by which new code gets completed.  You
might think that because so much code is being generated, and so many people
have these high degrees, most of them are just servants to the interests
of their advisors.  This is the new idea of the university.  Stay away from
it if you can.

> I find this dishonest in the least, to not acknowledge the existing
> conditions as they are.

If not dishonest. it is misguided.

> Regards,
>
> Divya
>
> [0]:
> https://cemerick.com/blog/2009/03/24/why-mit-now-uses-python-instead-of-scheme-for-its-undergraduate-cs-program.html
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-05 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-04 22:27 Emacs website, Lisp, and other Jeremy Bryant
2024-08-04 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05  4:29   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05  9:23   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 10:43     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 11:37       ` divya
2024-08-05 11:56         ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2024-08-05 12:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 11:45       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 12:56       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 13:16         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 14:46           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 21:28             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 14:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 12:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 16:27       ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 16:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 17:03           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 18:32             ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 20:20               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-06  7:14                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06  7:21                   ` Org mode API (was: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-06  8:23                     ` Org mode API Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-10 16:55                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-06 11:54                   ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-08  2:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-09 22:39                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-13  1:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-09 22:46                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  5:41                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  6:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13  1:28                       ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-05 18:58             ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 19:30               ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 20:02                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08  2:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-06  2:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 17:13         ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Yuri Khan
2024-08-06  6:39         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-06 11:16         ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-06 22:08           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 11:56 ` Emacs website, Lisp, and other Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 19:09   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-08-06 19:50     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-06 20:35       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-08-06 22:10         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06 22:48           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-06 23:09           ` Drew Adams
2024-08-06 23:21             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07  1:09               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06 22:26         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07  5:45         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  3:53           ` Madhu
2024-08-15  5:50             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  9:17               ` Madhu
2024-08-15  9:57                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  6:17             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  7:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15  8:06               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  9:27                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 16:03                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-07 11:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07 12:03       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-08-07 12:16       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08  2:01         ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-08  6:51           ` Joel Reicher
2024-08-07 12:31     ` Christopher Dimech
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-08-06 13:13 Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-08-07  7:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-07 11:24   ` Christopher Dimech

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