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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321869 Archived-At: > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 11:20 PM > From: "Emanuel Berg" > To: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library > > > This will be a consensus based project. Conflicts are not > > allowed, public dismissiveness of people efforts or > > backgrounds isn't either, the worst thing anyone is allowed > > to say is "we need to work more on this". > > If people really, really insist on one guy in charge then > I'm not 100% against it but then ... find someone we are sure > of isn't in it for the power at all. > > Some nerdy/intellectual guy who has been active with his stuff > and been talking on the MLs optimally so we know him. All depends on who wants to produce a first release that handles two initial mathematical classifications, and which helps others extend the library to other additional topic classification. The choice would be of someone who would actually get an agreed first release out. > Because if he does "meaningless things", that only he (or she) > is into, then we know, okay, he is into that, he didn't come > here for any other reason. > > Because people who are into power - avoid, avoid, avoid. > And they are much more common than I would have ever thought! > And they are everywhere, literally, including places where you > would be like "who would ever, ever care one bit who is in > charge HERE". But not only do these people care, that was the > reason they came. Yes, it is scary. > > Well, I'm sure you guys solve this in a good way. > > Ah, man, I'm too tired, that is why I write so long about > everything. See you ... zzz > > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal > > >