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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260898 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:02 PM > From: "andr=C3=A9s ram=C3=ADrez" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Philip K=2E" , "Lars Ingebrigtsen" , "Jean Louis" , emacs-devel@gnu=2Eorg > Subject: dvorak users (was: Emacs Survey: Toolbars) > > Hi Christopher=2E >=20 > >>>>> "Christopher" =3D=3D Christopher Dimech writes: >=20 >=20 > [=2E=2E=2E] >=20 >=20 > Christopher> Particularly for people not using a querty keyboard=2E = For instance, adapting > Christopher> keybindings for use with the Dvorak Keyboard would be a= significant improvement=2E >=20 > I think for dvorak users a good tip is remapping C-t to C-x > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (defmacro wiki/bind-dvorak-helper (key fn)=20 > `(global-set-key (kbd ,key) ,(if (listp fn) fn `',fn= ))) > (wiki/bind-dvorak-helper "C-t" (lookup-key global-map (kbd "C-x"))) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >=20 > After doing above You would need to be careful when on dired=2E (C-t)=2E >=20 > Also map C-c C-m as execute-extended-command > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (global-set-key (kbd "C-x C-m") 'execute-extended-command) > (global-set-key (kbd "\C-c\C-m") 'execute-extended-command) ; {from effe= ctive emacs} > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Quite correct Mr=2E Ram=C3=ADrez=2E The important thing for Productivity = and the eradication of Repetitive Strain Injury is not the keybinding, but the keyboard setup=2E =20 >=20 > [=2E=2E=2E] >=20 > Best Regards >