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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261548 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:53 PM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.or= g > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > Cc: Jean Louis , abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 00:37:26 +0100 > > > > > > What is in your opinion priority for Emacs? > > > > > > That question is too general to be useful, sorry. Emacs has a > > > gazillion different facets, and at least a dozen of fundamental > > > infrastructure features in very different domains. There isn't, and > > > IMO cannot be, a single priority, and moreover, if we'd try to come = up > > > with a priority list, we'd argue till the Second Coming without > > > reaching any agreement. > > > > > > I also don't see any sense in trying to define such priorities, as > > > long as no one but myself will be following them. > > > > Could you then come up with your plan as per your decisions so others = can see > > what's happening with Emacs. > > I don't think I understand what you mean here, sorry. > > > Emacs could need two other people who are skilled > > enough. People have got to understand this. Although Eli is responsi= ble > > and dedicated to Emacs Development, there cannot be just one person fu= lly immersed > > in it. > > I'm far from the only one who determines what developments are or will > be going on in Emacs. Just look at "git log" and you will see that. Do you like it how it is? Have heard you say that ultimately you have to do work, and when you ask for help nobody comes forward.