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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
Cc: Eshel Yaron <me@eshelyaron.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Blog post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 10:22:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-9c465c27-b800-41cb-b03f-8072d7be102f-1702545753141@3c-app-mailcom-bs13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkatw58b.fsf@web.de>

> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:30 PM
> From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Eshel Yaron" <me@eshelyaron.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Blog post
>
> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
> > From: "Eshel Yaron"
> >> I recently wrote a post on my blog that criticized a certain development
> >> in Emacs, and I think I owe some people here an apology, in particular,
> >> Eli and Thierry.  I never expected that rant to spread so widely
> > Ranting exclusively to oneself, without any external input or perspective is problematic.
> > Without external feedback or differing viewpoints, it's challenging to gain a realistic
> > perspective on the problem being ranted about.  Ultimately leading to unexamined positions
> > without the benefit of alternative viewpoints.  Without external communication you will get
> > frustrated and isolated. Sharing with others is healthy, providing potential solutions if you
> > are correct in your analysis.
> 
> So maybe the solution would rather be: if you’re frustrated, first enjoy
> a good meal (that’s good for the mood ☺), then say politely inside the
> community what feels like a problem to you.

If one put enough focus, then a rant is justified, even if to be corrected.
 
> My personal experience is that almost every time I grew sarcastic or
> ranted, I hit the wrong people … (and had to write an excuse, hoping
> that they would still be listening).

From your experience, have your rants been justified ? Introspection
of other people's rants should be considered part of the work.  After 
all, expletives towards demigods have occurred since time immemorial,
and will surely continue.

When Odysseus is washed ashore on the island of Ogygia, Calypso compels
him to remain as her lover for seven years.  But he finally escapes when
Hermes tells Calypso to release him.  I would also tell Calypso to release
users, rather than compelling them to be her lovers for many years. 

Felicitations 

> Best wishes,
> Arne
> -- 
> Unpolitisch sein
> heißt politisch sein,
> ohne es zu merken.
> draketo.de
>



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-14  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-14  7:09 Blog post Eshel Yaron
2023-12-14  7:56 ` Christopher Dimech
2023-12-14  8:30   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-12-14  9:22     ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2023-12-14  9:29       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-12-14  9:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 23:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-11  9:26   ` Eshel Yaron

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