From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 00:29:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83k0tbrv6w.fsf@gnu.org> <83czz3rs86.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11678"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 22 00:31:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krUdv-0002x0-34 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2020 00:31:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58906 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krUdt-00043N-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krUci-0003Kl-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:29:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:40619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krUch-0004zD-0j; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:29:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608593356; bh=9QNmAzZSoRTCaqkczp0s+p9JwGaYkfWE7VHFmDy7VzA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=RL39TB5G98boYcPMQgHqdyRr96f25ttQT2lbYajZ9UwDvqF6IF22JleAW0cL0wz7V ikebxhXgo0v0Ad9dAwWocGRalF5SHcSuFZumg2MF7s86ZitZ0vOJYnxIswg1gruVS4 5h+3sEbVMDiD/rfaMkyEil9tCBdRV0OZlILzLxRc= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs16.server.lan [172.19.170.184]) (via HTTP); Tue, 22 Dec 2020 00:29:16 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:n9jk6fTax7o4ZgIWd3aFK9c/2NyRFbn9wlkkEeLm+YroeLOpxBe2Lf6kJym5aX8huJy8D W6LfKTBMjh7ByhOks87TuqPQ+1wIwwytxSkSOTInchtLAOM30ZtXpZanMe1o+mge84V3+K55VEYZ Fawgh3upEVvuuK/zSU4Ozba/LJt/tJf/xhBoDGQoJJ2j1C3/MjDtEAkadD3VprDcQVyA+9lMV5z0 7bKar1LX3z1aV+HNFpYSuMVbfQJeZMflQbNjsZEJu/PFjLv5AKe5ATUATd9hue0RpD2fG6JNEpAr U4= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8hkQuywXF14=:VZO/3O7T/1ZQ3G4z1DOkqx yq+uME0lgNqfA1qT6mpLWq6wS9u4N4BXCPV4v9IKL3AxRgqaanepYepimdtpvo8tvIGA3SbLq t4dsHz1jnz2JwfGEHkAfciK1IpBymc183hhUdab+xQ7F92ms2Gp4ZQxJftITY3GA9zEIteVOG wgJq3hEiPx9Hv9Y8oRU/B/camTQCECNKkK+Hsn8ikmkUn8blxzWHhrNdJAMH1KIkWY1V/lo5J O/mbCXhcH6lUNdPN58o7ntjmTWeJEwkX+7sDr/MOusaa8BzeoDlRBkT1MNuyCjy3ZtInHQEDr bhECoFYigGQ/dAaNi5HRZ756T/bs0ICFIoS+aZKNepDhjNk96QfJf8sUp+Yh4AZ+Ex9a4Ku+/ dg3d7vZV1eDSNVcLvrnMLVKongD+GaI3nRv1AZToWveBnbVdB6cl4cPJWZjBecS14u5dJW+E1 QVK+6jTiw7CZ9zqUIQ6ktZUQhiHF8nBWk3FZyBefeiVoObVRILc2Dm9wnGKHnF9KAHIzYMkqt F2SBMDmIqf4mAK9BFX7iU8lZLzasjw+AM1L5lJ1aJE2SqF/KaRP22w5XB8Uq46HyAwkVYFw1Y jc+fl6tS/mi8Q= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261448 Archived-At: One may is to categorise according to separate emacs structures. Then have some from each make a plan with a list of five things to do, and about eight tickets to work on. And so on. A few people should come together, each person focused on a particular thing and the team led by Eli. Just don't make it in an argumentative way. Am quite sure that notwithstanding disagreements, some tasks could need to be handled better, and work could focus on that. Then introduce just one or two hot topics so that arguments can be managed better. I would say that it is most like= ly that areas of great controversy indicate that the various aspects of conte= ntion have got to be tackled, rather than focusing on one to the detriment of th= e other. 1. Major Modes 2. Minor Modes 3. Performance 4. Org-Mode 5. Completion 6. User Interface > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 at 11:28 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Eli Zaretskii" > Cc: dimech@gmx.com, abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > * Eli Zaretskii [2020-12-21 20:21]: > > > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:51:43 +0300 > > > From: Jean Louis > > > Cc: dimech@gmx.com, abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, > > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > > What is in your opinion priority for Emacs? > > > > That question is too general to be useful, sorry. Emacs has a > > gazillion different facets, and at least a dozen of fundamental > > infrastructure features in very different domains. There isn't, and > > IMO cannot be, a single priority, and moreover, if we'd try to come up > > with a priority list, we'd argue till the Second Coming without > > reaching any agreement. > > Hahahahaa >