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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261668 Archived-At: It is something we really lack and a transition that would elevate us to a= new level. It is difficult because we would need to work in a more disciplined way. = It's all about focusing on the process rather than the target. Most times, the bes= t results are achieved by doing what's best for oneself and the group. The idea of = mixed-strategy equilibria and its proof started by John Neumann in 1944. > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 11:17 AM > From: "Richard Stallman" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, abrochard@gmx.com, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.o= rg > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > The argument was to conrtol it better so things will stay within you= r reach. > > I think it would be really great if we could reshape our development > community into something more like a team. But that is easier said > than done. The first prerequisite is that the people in question > want to become a team. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > >