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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291702 Archived-At: > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 4:19 AM > From: "Michael Heerdegen" > To: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [External] : Doc of deprecated INITIAL-INPUT arg of complet= ing-read > > Drew Adams writes: > > > All that's needed is to make clear that INIT > > isn't intended as a _substitute_ for a default > > value - and vice versa. That's really the point > > (IMO). The use cases of INIT are different from > > those of DEF. That's what should be made clear. > > Then leave it up to coders to use each as they > > see fit. > > Mostly agreed. But as I said, I only intend to describe the current > coding recommendations better, and these don't regard INITIAL-INPUT and > DEF as equivalent alternatives. > > As a compromise, here is a reworded version: I approve of it. > For wishes, discussions and feature requests maybe use another > (sub-)thread or bug report. > > > Thanks, > > Michael. > >