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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261546 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:56 PM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: bugs@gnu.support, abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.or= g > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 00:55:00 +0100 > > > > > > I don't see how anything different from the above could ever work,= as > > > > long as the project continues to be a loosely coupled group of peo= ple > > > > with very disparate interests. (I also see nothing wrong in how w= e do > > > > things, FWIW.) > > > > There lies the problem. The project cannot continue to be loosely cou= pled > > with very disparate interests. > > OK, then let's close the project and all go home. The argument was to conrtol it better so things will stay within your reac= h.