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* 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other)
@ 2024-08-06 17:05 Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
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From: Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions. @ 2024-08-06 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Since Python has had enormous success

Just in being popular you mean right?

I would not learn it otherwise. 



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* Emacs website, Lisp, and other
@ 2024-08-04 22:27 Jeremy Bryant
  2024-08-04 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Jeremy Bryant @ 2024-08-04 22:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel, Eli Zaretskii, Richard Stallman

Reviewing the Emacs website, and previous discussions on this list below
(admittedly not recent, but still relevant).  It seems important to add
some text on Lisp which is not currently there, as per ideas of RMS and
Eli summarised below.

Where is the repo for the Emacs website?
What do people think?



Previous discussions on the subject:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg00356.html
RMS:
"
> We don't want to set Lisp up against other languages.
> We do want to get across what it offers that benefits
> an editor and environment such as Emacs.

Yes we do, to some extent.  The Emacs web site should say this:

Lisp is the most powerful and elegant of programming languages.  If
you want to see how powerful and elegant a programming language can
be, you need to learn Lisp.  It will give you standard for measuring
other languages.
"

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg00335.html
RMS:
"
Calling Emacs Lisp "python-like" is derogatory to Emacs Lisp.
Python has some of the characteristics that make Lisp superior,
but not all of them.  

Lisp is the most elegant and powerful programming language.  That is
what we should say.  In Lisp, programs are structured data and it is
easy to write other Lisp programs to operate on them.

Programmers that don't know Lisp do not realize what is missing in
other prograamming languages.
"

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg00200.html
Eli:
"
I believe the same could be true with other aspects.  E.g., is it such
a preposterous assumption that someone might be interested in coding
in Lisp, instead of all the ad-hoc extension languages invented by
other editors?
"



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2024-08-05 18:58             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 17:13         ` Yuri Khan
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