10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other)

[Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>]

> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2024 at 7:34 PM
> From: "Emanuel Berg" <incal@dataswamp.org>
> To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other)
>
> Abraham S.A.H." via "Emacs development discussions. wrote:
> 
> >> Moving point around
> >
> > I thought it's the strengh point of Emacs.
> 
> When programming, half the time is moving around in the buffer
> instead of solving the actual problem.
> 
> Not only that, moving around in the buffer is difficult and
> error-prone as you don't know how it will look at the point of
> code execution, and also moving around and of course
> especially _editing_ it inside it changes it, so it is a crazy
> situation to encourage.
> 
> > Why "Everything being a buffer" is bad?
> 
> Because one would like to separate data, data retrieval, data
> processing, and how data is displayed.
> 
> This is possible to do in Elisp but people have not payed
> attention to it which is why many program including such in
> core Emacs are very long programs with a lot of moving around
> buffers endlessly and this code is all intermixed with
> everything else.
> 
> Very ugly, boring to write, difficult to read, error-prone
> to maintain.

How the latex and tex modes have been written is an example.
 
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