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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: "Philip K." <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:30:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-2ccb779b-2c38-4448-b333-51ab34b07882-1608053444118@3c-app-mailcom-bs15> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874kknhuax.fsf@posteo.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 6:07 PM
> From: "Philip K." <philipk@posteo.net>
> To: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: "Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars
>
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>
> > Only small subset of users answered the survey. Emacs is used by much larger number of people. One can see that survey says that users who did answer the survey are on level higher.
> >
> > If you disable the toolbar you are doing it for those who answered the survey, not for those coming to Emacs, larger number of users.
> >
> > If I rememberv well survey also shows that large number of users use
> > it since shorter time like one year meaning that larger number of
> > users drop in the first year. Finding that cause and improving there
> > would keep those users.
>
> I guess it would be interesting to also find out what the connection is
> between newer users and toolbar usage. I personally think that the
> menu-bar is more than enough (though also not necessary), and that the
> toolbar is inefficient, and even if it were, it's underutilized.

The advantage of the menu-bar is that we can have the associated
keybindings displayed.  And that would be extremely useful for users.
They can use the menu to find the associated key binding.  Yet, the
advantage of finding the keybinding from the menu-bar is not fully
realised.  This is one thing that could help new users.  A serious
improvement would involve updating the keybinding strings in the
menu-bar according to what is specifically defined by the customisation
of the user.  Particularly for people not using a querty keyboard.
For instance, adapting keybindings for use with the Dvorak Keyboard
would be a significant improvement.


> People who use the TUI mode or "distributions" also usually don't have
> to disable it, so that might also be a factor that has to be considered.
>
> > On December 15, 2020 5:30:20 AM UTC, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> >>In that mega thread about modernising Emacs, there was a lot of talk
> >>about getting more data about how people use Emacs, and then...  do
> >>something accordingly.
> >>
> >>Behold: https://emacssurvey.org/2020/
> >>
> >>So here's the first thread about actionable takeaways from the survey.
> >>(Consider all arguments about the survey not being representative as
> >>having been made already.)
> >>
> >>Of 7.3K respondents, 5K disable toolbars, which is more than two
> >>thirds.  So perhaps toolbars should default to off?  I know toolbars
> >>were all the rage in the 90s, but that's apparently not the case now.
> >>
> >>Opinions?
> >
> >
> > Jean
> >
> >
>
> --
> 	Philip K.
>
>



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Thread overview: 384+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-15  5:30 Emacs Survey: Toolbars Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15  5:57 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15  6:24   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15 10:01   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-12-15  9:04   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-15 19:06   ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 19:33     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15 19:47     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:43       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-16  6:08         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15 10:00 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 15:49   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:44     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-15 17:07   ` Philip K.
2020-12-15 17:30     ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2020-12-15 17:40       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-15 18:06         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  9:07         ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-16 17:03           ` Drew Adams
2020-12-15 18:02       ` dvorak users (was: Emacs Survey: Toolbars) andrés ramírez
2020-12-15 18:40         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-17 22:23         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-12-15 14:17 ` Emacs Survey: Toolbars Eric S Fraga
2020-12-15 14:50   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15 14:56     ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-15 15:14     ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-12-15 15:33       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15 17:47         ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-12-15 18:11           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15 18:48           ` Philip K.
2020-12-15 19:02             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 19:21               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15 19:17             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:43             ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-15 18:51         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-20  4:23           ` Adrien Brochard
2020-12-20  4:35             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-20 13:44               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-20 20:36                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-22 10:58               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-22 12:22                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-22 14:05                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-22 14:02                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-23  4:26                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-23  5:22                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23  5:30                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-20 10:57             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-20 11:13               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-21  5:47                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-21  6:57                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-21  7:04                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-21 16:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-21 16:51                         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-21 17:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-21 17:58                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-21 23:29                               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-21 18:03                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-21 18:09                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-21 18:14                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-21 23:37                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-22 15:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23  1:32                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23 15:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-21 23:55                           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-22 15:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 15:52                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-23  1:27                               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-24  5:47                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-24  6:31                                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23  4:16                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-22  5:21                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-22  6:05                       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-22  6:06                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-24  5:49                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-24  7:04                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-24 11:21                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-26 10:20                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 12:44                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-27  5:42                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-22  6:31                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-22 15:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-24  5:49                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-22 15:40                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 16:28                         ` Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Jean Louis
2020-12-22 16:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 14:04                             ` Zhu Zihao
2020-12-23 16:07                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-24  1:54                                 ` Zhu Zihao
2020-12-24 14:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26  2:03                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  2:47                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-26  3:22                                         ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  3:48                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-26  4:01                                             ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27  5:34                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26  6:06                                       ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  8:26                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26  8:57                                         ` tomas
2020-12-26  9:06                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-26  9:24                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26  9:28                                             ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  9:34                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-26  9:47                                                 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  9:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26 10:02                                                   ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26 11:12                                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-26 11:16                                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26 11:16                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27  5:38                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-27 17:33                                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28  5:25                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 21:19                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-26 21:26                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-26 21:45                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-26 21:55                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-26 22:08                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-26 22:10                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-26 23:04                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27  0:34                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27  8:01                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 18:15                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27 22:03                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 22:30                                                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 22:49                                                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-27 22:57                                                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 23:05                                                                             ` lengths and other stuff Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27 23:09                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 23:16                                                                                 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27 23:21                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 23:23                                                                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27 23:24                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 23:23                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 23:32                                                                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27 23:46                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 23:25                                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 23:35                                                                                 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27 23:47                                                                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28  0:00                                                                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27 23:34                                                                             ` Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-28  0:00                                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28  0:16                                                                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-28  0:33                                                                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28  0:48                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-28  5:54                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-28  0:52                                                                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-27 23:41                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-01-01  5:55                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-01-01 15:03                                                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-01-01 19:09                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-01-01 22:08                                                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-01-01 22:55                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-01-01 23:32                                                                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-01-02  0:25                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2020-12-27 12:56                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-12-27 22:05                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 22:16                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-12-27 22:17                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 22:23                                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-12-27 22:29                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 22:30                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-12-27 22:42                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 23:00                                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-12-27 23:05                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 22:45                                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 22:49                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-27 22:32                                                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-27 22:52                                                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 23:17                                                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-27 23:40                                                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 23:55                                                                             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-28  0:19                                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28  0:52                                                                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-28  7:32                                                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-27  3:35                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27  3:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27  5:34                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26  7:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26  9:07                                         ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  9:31                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26  9:37                                             ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  9:51                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26 10:00                                                 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  9:52                                               ` Werner LEMBERG
2020-12-26 10:10                                                 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26  9:59                                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-26 10:14                                               ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26 10:54                                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-26 11:13                                                   ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-26 10:40                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-27 16:23                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-26 10:28                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-26 10:48                                         ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27  5:39                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-27  8:48                                             ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-28  5:28                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-28  6:30                                                 ` making gettext more like fluent Daniel Brooks
2020-12-29  5:57                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29  6:49                                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-30  5:30                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-28  8:05                                                 ` Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Zhu Zihao
2020-12-29  6:01                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29  7:01                                                     ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-29 11:48                                                     ` Zhu Zihao
2020-12-30  5:46                                                     ` The posibility to use Rust libraries with GNU Project softwares(e.g. link with Rust library) Zhu Zihao
2020-12-30 14:00                                                     ` Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Andy Moreton
2020-12-30 19:18                                                       ` Rust trademark problems - " Jean Louis
2020-12-21 16:53                   ` Emacs Survey: Toolbars Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-21 23:43                     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-02-25 22:53                     ` Jeremy Bryant
2020-12-22 11:03                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-22 13:22                     ` Daniel Martín via "Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 15:04                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-23 15:07                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 17:49                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-23 16:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 16:39                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-23 17:55                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-23 19:10                         ` Daniel Martín
2020-12-23 20:55                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25  4:29                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-25  9:48                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 17:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-25 18:06                                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 18:14                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-25 18:24                                     ` Yuri Khan
2020-12-25 18:29                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 20:32                                         ` Yuri Khan
2020-12-25 21:57                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 20:25                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-25 21:59                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-25 18:28                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-22 16:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 17:52                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 18:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22 18:32                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-22 19:04                         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-22 19:24                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-23  4:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-23 11:21                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-23 12:36                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23 15:45                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-23 15:56                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 16:05                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-24  4:40                               ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-12-24 14:23                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 15:42                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-23 12:45                         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-23 13:09                           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-23 13:44                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-24  5:50                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-24  5:57                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-24  6:31                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 20:58         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-15 21:22           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15 16:12   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:44     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-16 15:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-18  5:39         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-15 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 14:48   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-25 15:50     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-25 18:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-25 19:03         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-25 19:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-25 19:27             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-25 22:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-26  6:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-26  8:44           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-26 15:51             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-26 16:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-27  0:28                 ` *Menu* buffer Tomas Hlavaty
2021-02-27  7:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-01  5:56                     ` David Masterson
2021-02-25 19:44       ` Emacs Survey: Toolbars martin rudalics
2020-12-15 16:32   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-12-15 16:34   ` Drew Adams
2020-12-15 18:44   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 19:03     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 16:51   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  9:14   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-16 16:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 16:18       ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-16 17:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-17  8:20           ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-17 14:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-17 15:44               ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-17 15:48                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-18  0:23               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-18  9:10                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-17 17:06             ` Drew Adams
2020-12-17 18:10               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-17 19:20                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  5:42               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-18  6:36                 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-18  6:42                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  8:42                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-18  8:51                     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  9:29                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-12-18 17:48                       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-18 21:14                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18 17:43                     ` Drew Adams
2020-12-20  6:36                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-21  1:11                     ` Drew Adams
2020-12-21 10:23                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-18  5:42             ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-17 11:01         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-17 14:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 21:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-15 21:29   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  9:24   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-16  9:28     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-16 13:53       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  5:40       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-18  9:37         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-18  9:38         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-19  5:11           ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-19 21:04             ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-20  6:39               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-20  7:11                 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-21  5:52                   ` Richard Stallman
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2020-12-20  6:40               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-21  5:53               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-21 16:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-22  5:20                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-22 15:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23  4:23                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-22  2:54                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-12-22 13:29                   ` Caio Henrique
2020-12-16 16:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 16:54       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16 17:14     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-16 20:09       ` John Yates
2020-12-16 20:29         ` Drew Adams
2020-12-16 23:53           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16 21:33         ` chad
2020-12-16 22:56           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-18  5:53               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  8:43                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18  8:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18 10:04                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 10:15                       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18 18:07                         ` Drew Adams
2020-12-18 20:34                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 10:17                       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-17 10:58       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-17 11:22         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-17 12:08         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-17 12:12           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-17 19:32             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-17 14:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-18  9:37           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-18  9:45             ` Helmut Eller
2020-12-18 18:02               ` Drew Adams
2020-12-18 20:32                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 11:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 15:41               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-19 19:12                 ` Drew Adams
2020-12-19 19:37                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18 17:59             ` Drew Adams
2020-12-16 14:06   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-16 15:24     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-16 15:53       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-16  5:54   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16 15:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-17  5:54     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-17  6:49       ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-18  5:41         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-18  6:16           ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  9:26   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-17  5:54     ` Richard Stallman
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2020-12-27  4:03                                                   ` Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Drew Adams
2020-12-27  4:58                                                     ` lengths and stuff Daniel Brooks
2020-12-27  5:23                                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-27 17:56                                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-27 18:52                                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-12-27 20:52                                                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-28  7:15                                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-28 16:44                                                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen

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