From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 06:53:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <56d1484e-6f41-575f-0fbb-fd2bd99ab152@yandex.ru> <87eejqnlxk.fsf@gnus.org> <3156f8b8-1db1-1858-95c3-16d213c2353a@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35897"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yandros@gmail.com, john@yates-sheets.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 18 07:01:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8pR-0009E8-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 07:01:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42848 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8pQ-0004dp-7o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 01:01:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50424) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8he-0004YV-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:53:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:43373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8hb-0007ks-Nt; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:53:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608270795; bh=RfoSL0W1NW5D6XzOKXx/cQg3MLXUEK7zwA+9OaSHLqg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=AEZmGymSHcKRRRrv6nVomtHrfV0sSKW3KCO1dmIJKDvuz3zsyP6PM6KJkTxsUOivf hKAPzcnGO4SDhGnR5F6FTBWykqlcQSLjRQa4riN4UTW+Ft0J6mIn4YwbJ6lvuRlh8d J4OCGCypO/luQsV3iQBBiwBptr8tqRSYSO6D0D5s= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs11.server.lan [172.19.170.179]) (via HTTP); Fri, 18 Dec 2020 06:53:15 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:k87kfluScoxSgWC+KhzXHwdxhoyJaR3jlnoW1Iytbb0y+spawgS27FyvIAqjWpM4vQOBB p2v/lZn4oJgu68asB2VGYZaDHouD2X83dN8PqbbpAzvhsm5NZvEAgu7ssi04NBNwTE3FFkkM4dID gaCfRpc0h+E9B0VyKmaw+cwSvtJAdEOmtvGohc2XZ6DMzpnheZDvgyyXoaLfxd+NBqzWrYEFXWXD KcQkwod6hrTkGDG5aH8tl6SoywUdTn968NjFNjqvp0GtRwUXPHHnf9rnCatCjNA9I6Oj031dBckA sM= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:erc8XAianK8=:HRWxGJNsP/FFgHcJyzwhHe DWFmfgvbn9IxJ/7ZfLi43aFvfz3OYNH0hD7Tsf8Kgt66wa4fod1i7LDZiifaU8A3QEr4+Jjlm SJ9LyD83J5b/agtGwsf+Isz6yFNXJV85ftubJYikMiOH1kwNjqMOZeFVoGsZ4elx89wvo2nKA 9TMp3ORGXIVNAahgB4+5vmO7QYEvNJAF39ePjjHd4QGoip+fGGPO0X3Ekm4vyR2YoxIbxsYKc 2kkLirikhNfNtJZZeMDNiBoSzsUd7pwspTUnWnAFDr9jgkvAWMHE1BeTpzEQdX1FK9pKJjL53 seahqbKYmpE2lSC93008jglL/YtipyGFe/6tPybqzbWGCxXV/JqGWud27R+Qzmk+vN+qhjgtN 5pHBdZ1G2drpBP0QBIfhSRZiaUDixnNgZ1JVldhQUK7u4zU7gL5gziGShMqprgjooKmBK9QBu /E+HlI3t6wBHPmian0Hb759g7haiQORCubcw+EpYQUCW8donjRIpGL8zbI+kimSh4TTzOzOxi fX2BOtpTmWY0UAcEeJ3IUzVEC76TIBw0jRM5+fi6o7ARmOk3rSr0XIxSXUKPLM1vIzudGN6vY ulmGkgBwYFEbs= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261161 Archived-At: Dear Richard, It is difficult to use a mouse clicking tool to perform the keysequence on= a virtual keyboard. When using a mouse clicking tool with a virtual keyboard, the n= umber of presses that are saved, stop being a tiny fraction. It is then the keybin= ding approach that gets in the way. Regards Christopher > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 6:33 AM > From: "Richard Stallman" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: yandros@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, larsi@gnus.org, john@yates-shee= ts.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > --- Not fully correct. Toolbars assist those who suffer from pain p= ressing > > keys. > > If you have trouble pressing keys, the toolbar will save you at most > a tiny fraction of the keys you need to press to enter some text. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > >