From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Nicolas Martyanoff <nicolas@n16f.net>,
arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: as for Calc and the math library
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:38:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-09c6d6d0-5c50-493a-9605-e287607dfca2-1723469886228@3c-app-mailcom-bs06> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86wmklho4m.fsf@gnu.org>
----- Kristof Đymek
Administrator General - Chilkat Design Build - Naiad Informatics - Gnu Project
Society has become too quick to pass judgement and declare someone
Persona Non-Grata, the most extreme form of censure a country can
bestow.
In a new era of destructive authoritarianism, I support Richard
Stallman. Times of great crisis are also times of great
opportunity. I call upon you to make this struggle yours as well !
https://www.gnu.org https://www.fsf.org/
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 1:22 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: "Nicolas Martyanoff" <nicolas@n16f.net>
> Cc: arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: as for Calc and the math library
>
> > From: Nicolas Martyanoff <nicolas@n16f.net>
> > Cc: Nicolas Martyanoff <nicolas@n16f.net>, arthur.miller@live.com,
> > emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 14:11:07 +0200
> >
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> > > We made the effort to allow loading dynamic modules precisely for this
> > > reason: to allow free libraries to be used, but not non-free ones.
> >
> > You absolutely can use non-free dynamic modules: enforcing the existence
> > of a symbol saying "I promise I'm free" does not change anything. One
> > could also easily add a free dynamic module that calls non-free
> > libraries.
>
> The need to declare that a library is free and have its sources freely
> available does serve as an obstacle for non-free software. And using
> non-free library with a free module is against the GPL, so it is
> illegal. We cannot prevent people from lying and doing illegal
> things, we can only make it harder.
License terms do not prohibit the software's use, such a restriction would
not be enforceable.
> > It is sad to see Emacs being hamstrung and users being limited because
> > someone could do something that would have no impact whatsoever with the
> > project or any other user.
>
> This is a sad world for more reasons than one, but discussing that is
> off-topic here.
What you can do is remove non-free software from free-software tools.
You are wasting time for no real returns.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-12 13:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-12 5:30 as for Calc and the math library arthur miller
2024-08-12 11:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 11:23 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-12 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:11 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-12 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 13:38 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2024-08-15 1:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-15 3:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 13:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-15 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 7:16 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-13 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 13:10 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-13 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 13:48 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-13 21:43 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-14 5:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 8:45 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-14 9:56 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-14 10:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 5:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 4:11 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 6:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 14:00 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 15:08 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 16:00 ` Suhail Singh
2024-08-14 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 20:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 5:00 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-15 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 20:09 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-16 5:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-16 6:17 ` we need *modularity* [last problem] (was: Re: as for Calc and the math library) Emanuel Berg
2024-08-16 9:35 ` first-is (3 versions, Elisp hangup) (was: Re: we need *modularity* [last problem]) Emanuel Berg
2024-08-16 9:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-16 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 16:38 ` as for Calc and the math library Richard Stallman
2024-08-18 17:27 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-19 12:05 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-24 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-24 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-15 9:31 ` Emacs ffi (was: Re: as for Calc and the math library) Andrea Corallo
2024-08-15 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 20:32 ` Emacs ffi Andrea Corallo
[not found] ` <trinity-a24567af-9dc5-4e16-960c-c42d9759f282-1723755762558@3c-app-mailcom-bs05>
2024-08-16 20:07 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-08-16 21:21 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-17 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-17 9:05 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-17 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-17 13:21 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-17 14:30 ` Joel Reicher
2024-08-17 17:18 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-18 4:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-19 12:38 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2024-08-17 15:36 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-18 5:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-17 15:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-08-18 13:26 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87h6birmfy.fsf@>
2024-08-19 16:57 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-19 17:22 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-17 2:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-14 14:35 ` as for Calc and the math library Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 14:40 ` Nicolas Martyanoff
2024-08-14 14:47 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-08-14 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 5:29 ` Madhu
2024-08-14 6:06 ` [ffi] " Madhu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-08-10 22:48 Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11 4:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 16:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 16:55 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 17:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 18:17 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 19:53 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-11 18:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-11 18:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-11 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 19:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 21:50 ` Christopher Dimech
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