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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is admin/unidata/copyright.html a free software license?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 12:49:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-06abef4b-f969-4f8e-bb13-0cde43d07457-1692614967180@3c-app-mailcom-bs13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w6gsf8cbrsm.fsf@uni-mainz.de>



> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 at 10:42 PM
> From: "Ulrich Mueller" <ulm@gentoo.org>
> To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Is admin/unidata/copyright.html a free software license?
>
> [I'd have expected a previous discussion on this, but I failed to find
> one in the archives of this mailing list. Sorry if this is a duplicate.]
>
> File admin/unidata/copyright.html (also at [1]) contains the "Unicode
> Terms of Use" which say in section H.2:
>
> | Unicode, Inc. shall have the right to modify this Agreement at any
> | time by posting it to this website.
>
> This allows the copyright holder to unilaterally revoke the freedoms,
> which I believe fails the free software definition [2]:
>
> "In order for these freedoms to be real, they must be permanent and
> irrevocable as long as you do nothing wrong; if the developer of the
> software has the power to revoke the license, or retroactively add
> restrictions to its terms, without your doing anything wrong to give
> cause, the software is not free."
>
> IMHO it also fails Debian's "Tentacles of Evil" test [3] which says:
>
> "To be free, the license cannot allow even the author to take away the
> required freedoms."
>
> I am also surprised that these lists in admin/unidata/ or, in general,
> a character set can be copyrightable. (For example, everyone uses ASCII
> without thinking about copyright of the underlying ANSI X3.4 standard.
> The same applies to several much larger CJK character sets.)

Correct, they are not covered by a free license.

> [1] https://www.unicode.org/copyright.html
> [2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html.en
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines#debian-legal_tests_for_DFSG_compliance
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-21 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-21 10:42 Is admin/unidata/copyright.html a free software license? Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-21 10:49 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2023-08-21 11:16   ` Christopher Dimech
2023-08-21 12:31     ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-21 12:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-21 12:59         ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-21 14:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-21 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-21 12:48   ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-21 12:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-21 13:11       ` Christopher Dimech
2023-08-23  2:12         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-22  1:03 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-22  2:44   ` Christopher Dimech

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