From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:57:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83k0t9rfj5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12749"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Jean Louis , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 24 06:58:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ksJdt-0003CK-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:58:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksJds-00035J-92 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39388) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksJd7-0002CW-Ng for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:57:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:34113) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksJd5-0007qo-AA; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:57:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608789426; bh=S08DGfUrBzW7oAl3l6GMwVwa6hde1EvWS0CAv5dDOx0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=Z/Yilp/2I555shMG7rQuTlh2rownlkM+Rk5rTO8nKWG2UQCGNtm/1Q1J0x+tJ6SVG uCWyt4vYGgVoUB7UjaxKEb4ddVq96KQ7voA8K2YyxhK2vA0X9QmRl2LobqhwpDWMdj nKKgQ3vPwPKb4sPSIVplhlhqsqfRn9DPkfNXZ610= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs08.server.lan [172.19.170.176]) (via HTTP); Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:57:05 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TafUt6dvTeeiBXRl7HnVD6FSLi3Wp6XdygkBqFiASs5IxWwqZZrODeIJ76YVW9Eqk9A5p HomiS5wdswDVr42axc//MGkN5xMLLZfKTots6V/sC8WWq87CoCiLg+1yQD5zSzyUXcmgpiSozSWt OVNqR7Ige0m3QZDNVIejqO4aRAHjPqOc7MyY42sT3G2le7TrD6rm9Bb9tS9tu2CgK04XMhHHlmly pFo7KyoUPGOx9WKcnC1XtT0JVhkRsf6+y3VMj0ceg5wVD62Rswn57W/wkNfmyriwAwn9WO8siBCT MM= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:o+R7vfKoSY4=:1v1CCZa2/qkKGp/AaX04bu ESZkEmJh0s6a2u8oJYT81Ug2s9CC+GAE8WpAD4DjP6D1S7mJ+jOfiySfozAXZBkyBq+NPuen7 hUCioKlwivcYTbQxzFmCPAInshlzHb5f+i8Y/LGBmciQZqRKw0Mqyh1HB2aO2Mit25z23WsFh tqMsbKDaDZbJmqqTka9zua1VpgVL4mIbl/0IFkz8CnyNFd1eNrPvTIPVpasdxb61J5hJiaLrV cgqeNZlGREra7bPHdeFtBme1IErPHy00HmJeakv2Zd3CfXUqutoiLfDwNgBVDQHE7MA63b6P2 s4k/PEx2bVy/llt009cXOisijUoE5wxI5sV/riJmI6KJjhBPROdrrLnVrcNhs/3blWu7ANvM3 2hjQEiLbmJlTzKE02ar0Uc6tOOK0QZNotTNGLUf/jSl9z3aP2K73HPzqiCJvyQ+Wb3yaIbFPx XigkRnpLjigfMYUGTqGjZL+eEJY9enKiogXrCtS5UfH6cmWB1HNT6xigta8wVpJR+mzUeOVl1 6teif43j/5L+nur4WeNZ0HgVEdaHK9JgMAyZgN8qNCX0n3WsUvyc4jzXoPtB7bt4k8Gx7pjzN utmDZ2kZE9UGo= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261663 Archived-At: I understand what you mean. Whan I want to print something quick, I also have to turn to LibreOffice. I wrangled that a new major mode could suffice, but I am not an knowledgeable enough to be sure. > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 11:20 AM > From: "Richard Stallman" > To: "Jean Louis" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Actually LyX is using WYSIWYM paradigm, like What You See Is What Yo= u > > Mean. > > That is fine for some jobs, but not adequate for writing text to fit > in one or two sides of a sheet of paper. For that I have to use > LibreOffice -- and I always wish it had the Emacs editing facilities. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > >