From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi and shaping problems in describe-input-method Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:58:46 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8362e9yaum.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331600346 23301 80.91.229.3 (13 Mar 2012 00:59:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 13 01:59:03 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S7G4p-0003MC-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:58:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39574 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7G4p-0002Dc-26 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35502) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7G4k-0002DX-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7G4i-000817-LE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:33767) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7G4i-0007ug-46; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:58:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id q2D0wlA2009122; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:58:47 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id q2D0wlIT005369; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:58:47 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id q2D0wkfe019804; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:58:46 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) In-Reply-To: <8362e9yaum.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:41 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-Received-From: 150.29.246.133 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148991 Archived-At: In article <8362e9yaum.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > However, using LRO..PDF means that no label on a key can use a string > that needs to be reordered. That's because the LRO overrides the > bidirectional properties of all the following characters to be strong > L. Ahh, ummm, that's not good. I'm still misunderstanding LRO. :-( > If we can live with this limitation, I agree that this is better. > But I think you said earlier that such a restriction is more than we > can bear. What we need is to display (only capital letters are Hebrew): ... | HEB REW | ABC DEF | ... as ... | BEH WER | CBA FED | ... If none of LRO..PDF, LRE..PDF work, and if there's no easy way to determine when to insert LRM, the only way is to insert LRMs unconditionally. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org