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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Yair F <yair.f.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Composing Hebrew diacriticals
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:35:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tl78w7jb0wx.fsf@m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin5fDs_thjY2I3S4anUDpgkqbzfZt2TBdzRo-8Y@mail.gmail.com> (message from Yair F on Sun, 16 May 2010 00:35:11 +0300)

In article <AANLkTin5fDs_thjY2I3S4anUDpgkqbzfZt2TBdzRo-8Y@mail.gmail.com>, Yair F <yair.f.lists@gmail.com> writes:

>>> 1. Letter Shin (U+5E9) is not composed. It is followed by Shin-dot
>>> (U+5C2) which breaks the composition.
> >
> > In my environment, the sequence U+5E9 U+5C2 is surely
> > composed.  Please show me the output of this command.
> >
> > % MDEBUG_FLT=3 emacs --eval '(message "\u05E9\u05C2")'
[...]
> Mine is
>  [FLT] (hebr-ff (dejavu sans)
>  [FLT]   (SOURCE 05E9)
>  [FLT]   (STAGE 0 "H" (05E9)
>  [FLT]     (SUBPART 0
>  [FLT]      (COND
>  [FLT]       (REGEX "^." "H" 1
>  [FLT]        (COPY 0x5E9)))))
>  [FLT]   (RESULT (053D 1152 0 0)))

Are you using the same setting as mine which I wrote as
below in the previous mail?

> I have not yet committed proper codes for Hebrew
> composition.  I'm now testing with this simple version.
> 
> (let ((pattern "[\u05D0-\u05F2][\u0591-\u05BF\u05C1-\u05C5\u05C7]+"))
>   (set-char-table-range
>    composition-function-table '(#x591 . #x5C7)
>    (list (vector pattern 1 'font-shape-gstring)
> 	 ["[\u0591-\u05C7]" 0 font-shape-gstring]))
>   (set-char-table-range
>    composition-function-table #x5C0 nil)
>   (set-char-table-range
>    composition-function-table #x5C6 nil))

>>> 2. Letter Lamed (U+5DC) Followed by Holam (U+5B9) The point is
>>> composed to the right of the letter instead of left.
> >
> > It seems that "dejavu sans" font doesn't have 'ccmp' nor
> > 'mark' feature applicable to that sequence.

> In that case, may I suggest switching to a different font?

It's possible to write such a code (which will slow down the
display), but if you don't have a better font, we anyway
have to use the available font.

By the way, do you have a better font than 'dejavu sans' for
Hebrew?

>>> 3. Letter Yod (U+5D9) composed with Hiriq (U+5B4) is composed into
>>> presentation form (U+FB1D). This should only happen with specific
>>> control (Either CGJ or ZWJ I'll check).
> >
> > I tried to show that sequence with gedit and and firefox.
> > Both show it with U+FB1D.

> Kate show this as well, Firefox doesn't. Nevertheless it's still a bug.

Then what is the correct rendering of the sequence "\u05D9\u05B4"?
Applying only `mark' feature?  With dejavu sans font, U+FB1D
has lower dot above baseline, but just applying `mark'
feature results in displaying dot below baseline.

See the attached image.  The left one is the composition
with `ccmp' GSUB feature (i.e. into U+FB1D) for the sequence
"\u05D9\u200D\u05B4", and the right one is the composition
with `mark' GPOS feature for the sequence "\u05D9\u05B4".
Is this the correct rendering?

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17  4:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-30 12:29 Composing Hebrew diacriticals Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-05  2:39 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-05 15:49   ` David Kastrup
2010-05-05 20:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-06  7:20       ` David Kastrup
2010-05-06  0:45     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-06 12:14       ` David Kastrup
2010-05-06 13:01         ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-05 18:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-07 11:15     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-08 12:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-06 14:59   ` Yair F.
2010-05-06 17:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-07  0:48     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-07  4:41       ` Yair F
2010-05-07  6:23         ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-07 10:00           ` Yair F
2010-05-07 11:11             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-07  9:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-10 14:09           ` Yair F
2010-05-11  0:25             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-11 12:20               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-11 16:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-12  8:04                   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-12 17:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-12 19:05                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-05-13  3:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-13  0:42                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-14  8:10                         ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-14 10:02                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-14 11:58                             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-14 13:29                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-14 14:06                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <AANLkTilcNB_ntRY_EVS9EyMrqS3GRAp3rHGiXL_3YZuR@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-15  2:14                             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-15 21:35                               ` Yair F
2010-05-17  4:35                                 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2010-05-17 17:32                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-18  0:36                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-17 21:08                                   ` Yair F
2010-05-20  2:09                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-25  1:45                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-25 20:56                                         ` Yair F
2010-05-26  0:36                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-26  4:37                                             ` Yair F
2010-05-26  6:00                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-26 16:12                                                 ` Yair F
2010-05-27  7:27                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-27 21:59                                                     ` Yair F
2010-05-28  0:42                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-06-01  8:58                                                         ` Yair F
2010-05-26 13:28                                             ` Enabling bidi (was: Composing Hebrew diacriticals) Stefan Monnier
2010-05-26 17:14                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-27  4:13                                                 ` Enabling bidi Stefan Monnier
2010-05-27 17:43                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-18  7:29                                   ` Composing Hebrew diacriticals Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-17 13:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-19 17:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-11 21:40                 ` Yair F
2010-05-12  3:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-12 15:11                     ` Yair F
2010-05-12 17:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-12 22:01                         ` Yair F
2010-05-13 17:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-13 19:46                             ` Yair F
2010-05-13 19:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-13 20:08                                 ` Yair F
2010-05-14  2:35                                   ` Miles Bader
2010-05-14 10:45                                     ` Yair F
2010-05-14 13:05                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-14 13:15                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-05-15  0:46                                       ` Miles Bader
2010-05-13  0:29                       ` Kenichi Handa
     [not found] <tl7fx0v9nra.fsf@m17n.org>
2010-06-15 11:02 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-06-24  6:33   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-06-25 10:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-06-28 16:40     ` Yair F
2010-06-29  8:07       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-06-29 18:57         ` Yair F
2010-06-30  5:27           ` Kenichi Handa
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTim3sQzyJ4YQkOzfRHCFhztgLG-CA2vlM84lbwoq@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-30 21:48               ` Fwd: " Yair F
2010-07-01  5:59                 ` Miles Bader
2010-07-01  5:52               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-07-01 20:30                 ` Yair F
2010-07-02  7:51                   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-07-12  8:17                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-07-12 21:10                       ` Yair F
2010-07-13  4:11                         ` Kenichi Handa
2010-07-13  4:47                           ` Yair F
2010-07-13 12:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii

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