From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:49:50 +0900 Message-ID: References: <200907092112.21879.jem@iki.fi> <87ws6hupsk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y6qxkqwo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200907110019.08226.jem@iki.fi> <87zlbcdjhe.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87iqhzokpd.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247291542 22821 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2009 05:52:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bastienguerry@googlemail.com, stephen@xemacs.org, jem@iki.fi, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 11 07:52:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MPVVO-00021L-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:52:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39017 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPVVO-0006TL-6W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPVTI-0004fJ-PP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPVTD-0004Z2-MJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56519 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPVTD-0004Yf-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:49:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:55152) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MPVTA-0001Ft-MQ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n6B5np1O016854; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:49:51 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n6B5npfW000893; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:49:51 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n6B5notD021046; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:49:50 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MPVT4-00060x-Pf; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:49:50 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87iqhzokpd.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:25:02 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112330 Archived-At: In article <87iqhzokpd.fsf@catnip.gol.com>, Miles Bader writes: > The "C-n/C-p and C-a/C-e inconsistency" of the default settings is intentional. > Having used the current defaults for a fairly long period, and of course > "traditional" emacs for untold eons before that, I've come to the > conclusion that Chong made the right choice. > I get annoyed sometimes too by C-n/C-p's behavior -- but the traditional > behavior annoyed me _more_ often. I think there is _no_ setting which > will please all people, or even one person all the time, but the current > compromise seems to be pretty decent. If we need two different operations, the normal way is to use two different keys. I'm using and (arrow keys) for visual line move, and C-p and C-n for logical line move. At least, this setting please myself all the time. I'm also using and for beginning-of-visual-line and end-of-visual-line respectively. This is very convenient too. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org