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From: "Sebastián Monía" <sebastian@sebasmonia.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	 Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	 Anand Tamariya <atamariya@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Negative nth index
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:24:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <thqnh66tt86w.fsf@sebasmonia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwva5clis9x.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2024 00:11:26 -0500")


Hello,

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>>>> Should negative index for nth be valid? e.g.
>>>>> (nth -1 '(1 2)) returns 1
>
> [ I'd make it return 2 otherwise you can't use it to return the
>   last element.  ]
>
>>>> What does this do in other Lisps?
>>> In CL, it errors (ditto for nthcdr with negative index).  Same for (nth
>>> '(1 2 3) -1) in Clojure or (list-ref '(1 2 3) -1) in Scheme.

And for this reason I _would not_ expect it to work with negative
numbers in Elisp.

> I don't see a strong argument in favor of making it index from the end
> rather than signal an error.  What would the implementation look like?

This is "modern"? behaviour that I would expect from seq-elt, because it
is the newest, bell and whistles library.

I have a feeling that keeping `nth' more limited for reasons of
tradition is silly, but...it feels right.

Regards,
Seb

-- 
Sebastián Monía
https://site.sebasmonia.com/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-24 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-22  5:43 Negative nth index Anand Tamariya
2024-12-22  7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22  9:01   ` Tassilo Horn
2024-12-23  5:40     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-24  5:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-24  6:42         ` Teemu Likonen
2024-12-24  6:48         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-12-24 13:09           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-24 15:18         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-24 15:24         ` Sebastián Monía [this message]
2024-12-24 21:33         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 10:30           ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-12-25 10:56             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 12:14               ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-12-25 13:04                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-25 14:23                   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-25 17:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-25 14:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22 10:16 ` Andreas Schwab

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