From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: LdBeth Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Naming FCRs Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 10:54:40 +0800 Message-ID: References: <01d516b3-86ca-fdf3-73f0-49b2e6930499@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2196"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/27.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Cc: Jim Porter , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 30 03:55:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2lbc-0000P6-2G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 03:55:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57280 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2lba-0006Hh-CB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:55:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2lap-0005Wd-Ke for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from out162-62-57-87.mail.qq.com ([162.62.57.87]:55633) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2lag-0006Zl-0P; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:54:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=foxmail.com; s=s201512; t=1640832882; bh=1xMYfzfJlrgnXbSmzw3GH+8K8w0Fc4XgPAivF10a+GA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=NaWxi+VR5yeVnnc7al0eVai+7SrZ0O4sMYwUN0beuos8aGLtHC68+M8jtvkkuGTxu yLMtua2V4RxeAjh8koN5bcN54O/fT0CjjK05SeD7ORWQTC6HAl009xxVn1Peher0eL wm8al3RQUqNsAmkq3oTvVBNN2juf74mfTuWfFppI= Original-Received: from Costume-Party.local ([61.174.174.112]) by newxmesmtplogicsvrszc8.qq.com (NewEsmtp) with SMTP id DA91B01A; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 10:54:41 +0800 X-QQ-mid: xmsmtpt1640832881tcjyrbcln X-QQ-XMAILINFO: Mh6afRjLLLThwNT/nOBdzAWBaHA8hYOWnULq/q+ZR5CmkSDRWGGA7KZYRmkreb GzachHm/ESNYp3LEAoa3baYQSN1/cwwqBiWycs8zjVmluzBmMlDcEjf2Vz32kt4pMf3Oe3E6aG+F hPulSjlN9qk0wl3ZHVFKTY6R+h7igWDiG4CywLWkoP3f2RY0xq4lc4xXZkHIF2p2Ss8vEY7E/0Ri HarAfyjp9HzinrsUfNUj5i41UAliUlVc4RvqKtPqb9q/0Rlo6d+mrF7oigAmkdbasNqm+LKrFiMR BENNK/lC0o3k1h+y1OSRVN4j9XsT7py78ZGCGR1GG3GCOxqTnvJFO+P3yxQnAuZxiT7TEULC8TWX YTlxEdbxopLtNysmyIAcjRCbzDdWo2jNCDJh9rabtDmODKlzRMvASA+bLF/zt0r6LOrQKXnRSQlR YKQojy+7y+EjtLYcDrZbFV9hCIJoG0VUvnReHhRuHEINDTv6FAjg9f/I/d79+TC1JLNwyoNXqsTH 0J5I4WMknXZHdvd/WnYvkOKl2rfOWzVtN7YBNEuAKHTAAnAOY5RKOSdFw4ovR7gOT3N28xZaAOcY F2UsATNCQHWpWed3sOW1ori3Ypbf2nAJSIslUbakDbfHSuiAgK5uyKNy63deFHvBVrwITSG98me/ czCj+fSTNS423jEcJJysFJtljlfVrxS4y0K26nlI0bseXDfWtPaTpnvEVoRuhKOHpQbwwqkCuO3/ lFhMMwrySaZXhZO11Gwhm7nVAa1vlYp3i6I+wbu8sgPcj/eATKXYOLRqCMTxhVN6fPuiwn1lS/Ls OasPUkRVjac4QJEEAkrLhpIbY/nVAaIDXE3CQ7CZ Original-Received: by Costume-Party.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D2C73203D5AB50; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 10:54:40 +0800 (CST) X-OQ-MSGID: In-Reply-To: X-Face: %[!P\u/BKFRGn_9h9|yO"ho?C0ej^LmM}WMb-`Jfj8OsS^^AKmHYGlD@^|7SEA3UzOGPFbB"OFczY?'\JtJ\lR'@&Y5j; s8{$&|3D>^i.U4l2h?1qpD.+{[$~j]vBeHZf^|BGyL8{/`4 X-Attribution: ldb Received-SPF: pass client-ip=162.62.57.87; envelope-from=andpuke@foxmail.com; helo=out162-62-57-87.mail.qq.com X-Spam_score_int: 27 X-Spam_score: 2.7 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.7 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=1.951, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283605 Archived-At: >>>>> In >>>>> Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I think we should extend the functionality of closures by providing a >> way to access the bound variables in them. Then we won't need to make >> Emacs Lisp more complicated with a new data type, because ordinary >> closures will do this job too. Stefan> That's exactly what fcr.el does. That seems to be part of the functionality a Lisp Inspector provides: access/editing various lisp objects. -- LDB