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From: Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@xemacs.org>
Subject: Re: new text property
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:40:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <sxsptyx5z1j.fsf@florida.munich.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1023824830.26240.84.camel@space-ghost> (Colin Walters's message of "11 Jun 2002 15:47:10 -0400")

Colin Walters <walters@gnu.org> writes:

> On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 07:40, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
>
>> Other highlighting mechanims have speed issues as well.  For example,
>> Gnus prefers not to highlight huge messages because that would take
>> too long.  If I controled that with `M-x font-lock-mode' (which would
>> buy me nothing in turns of convenience; Gnus has variables to
>> fine-tune its highlighting), 
>
> It would be convenient because it is the same interface that one uses to
> enable and disable fontification in many prominent Emacs modes;

But in my view, that convenience does not outweigh the need for
consistency.  Respecting `M-x font-lock-mode', but not any other
font-lock variable, is quite inconsistent.

>> I would expect things like `font-lock-maximum-size' to keep
>> working.
>
> Why?

Because I `M-x font-lock-mode' worked just fine.  Because `C-h f
font-lock-mode' claims it does.

> There is no slowdown when using `font-lock-face'.

I never claimed that, sorry if that was unclear.  Read the whole of my
paragraph, which you broke down in two pieces.  It's all about
consistency between `M-x font-lock-mode' and the rest of the
font-lock-* setup (where font-lock-maximum-size is but one element),
which would be broken.

>> Plus, font-lock-maximum-decoration is not only about speed.  Some
>> people don't *like* too much decoration.
>
> Well, that's a hard problem to solve.

Exactly.  That's one more reason why I think it's not a good idea to
merge font-lock and other highlighting on the surface.

Again, I don't have strong feelings about this.  If many users request
this feature, I will not veto its inclusion.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-11 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-09  7:22 new text property Colin Walters
2002-06-10  4:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found] ` <87y9dnycw8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-06-10  5:12   ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10  5:46   ` Colin Walters
     [not found]   ` <buod6uzbtun.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-06-10  6:38     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]     ` <87bsajy6y8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-06-10  6:53       ` Colin Walters
2002-06-10 14:30       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <200206101431.g5AEV0G28267@rum.cs.yale.edu>
2002-06-10 17:35         ` Adrian Aichner
2002-06-11  5:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11  8:24         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-06-10  8:50 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-10 11:16   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-10 12:07     ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-10 12:26       ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10 13:32         ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-10 14:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 15:08           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-10 18:51           ` Colin Walters
     [not found]           ` <1023735066.26240.14.camel@space-ghost>
2002-06-11 11:40             ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-06-11 19:47               ` Colin Walters
2002-06-11 20:40                 ` Hrvoje Niksic [this message]
2002-06-12  8:18                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-12  9:05                     ` Miles Bader
2002-06-12  1:14                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]                 ` <877kl5pabc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-06-12  3:11                   ` Colin Walters
2002-06-12  8:16                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-06-12 17:46                       ` Adrian Aichner
2002-06-10 15:03       ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]       ` <vaf1ybf18hp.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2002-06-10 15:13         ` Hrvoje Niksic

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