From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 encoded file names and UTF-8 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 05:38:09 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <7704-Sat08Mar2003111630+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <8582-Sat08Mar2003190654+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <7443-Sun09Mar2003003528+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047185276 3704 80.91.224.249 (9 Mar 2003 04:47:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 04:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 05:47:55 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rsj5-0000xb-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 05:47:55 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18rt4h-0007gT-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 06:10:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rsiF-0005ly-0A for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 23:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rsht-0005gN-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 23:46:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rshJ-0005Jy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 23:46:06 -0500 Original-Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rshG-0005HT-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 23:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18rshD-0008D6-00; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 05:45:59 +0100 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 95145A43E4; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 05:38:09 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <7443-Sun09Mar2003003528+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> ("Eli Zaretskii"'s message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2003 00:35:28 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12190 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12190 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> From: Karl Eichwalder >> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:25:25 +0100 >>=20 >> > And what is the value of `default-file-name-coding-system'? If it's >> > anything but `utf-8', please try setting `file-name-coding-system' to >> > `utf-8' and see if that helps. >>=20 >> I did ask for help; I reported a problem worth fixing ;) It is a >> reather serious problem, IMO. > > This must be some kind of misunderstanding: I was trying to help you, > not mock your report in any way. Sorry. > So please do tell what is the value of `default-file-name-coding-system' > and please do try setting `file-name-coding-system' to `utf-8'. It > might get your problem solved. It's set to mule-utf-8. In the meantime I converted all file names to UTF-8; now, Emacs works as expected (name are properly decoded and dired is able to work on them). Then I added another ISO-8859-1 encoded file name and all the UTF-8 encoded names are displayed wrongly: /home/ke/Texte/wikipedia: insgesamt 128 [...] -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 2769 2003-03-08 21:46 F=C3=BCrth (B= ayern) -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 903 2003-03-08 10:44 International= isierung -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 1327 2003-03-08 17:42 Konrad Duden -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 2117 2003-03-08 17:46 Mittelfranken -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 1150 2003-03-08 19:08 Nachschlagewe= rk -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 520 2003-03-05 23:24 N=C3=B6rdlich= es Sotho -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 0 2003-03-09 05:30 N=FCrnberg -rw-r--r-- 1 ke users 1269 2003-03-08 10:44 Pegnitz (Flus= s) [...] "N=FCrnberg" is ISO-8859-1 encoded. > Again a misunderstanding, I hope. I was trying to point to a possible > way of designing such a feature, not tell that I think the issue > should be dismissed. Point taken. Thanks for helping to track down the issue. I hope my reports are helpful. --=20 ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*)