From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: C-z (Re: Two GTK related feature requests) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:10:04 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oew8so3g.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067145385 7019 80.91.224.253 (26 Oct 2003 05:16:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 26 06:16:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ADdGJ-0002Ty-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:16:23 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ADdGI-0004ZX-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:16:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADdG4-0000Tv-Lf for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ADdFz-0000Sd-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ADdFS-0008Ur-UG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.175.24.41] (helo=elvis.franken.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1ADdFN-0008Gw-Ef for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:15:25 -0400 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ADdFL-0006qA-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:15:23 +0100 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 8DD368CA10; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:10:04 +0100 (CET) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (James H. Cloos, Jr.'s message of "Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:08:40 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17430 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17430 James H.Cloos Jr. writes: > It does overlay C-z, so you have to remember to use C-x C-z instead > for (suspend-emacs) or (iconify-or-deiconify-frame) as applicable. Reminds me... I'd like to see C-z de-assigned from iconify-or-deiconify-frame. It happens to me much to often that I press this key combo by accident without the possibility to 'undo' (C-g) this action. I'm forced to use features of the windowmanager to deiconify Emacs. This isn't userfriendly. People are used to make use of the windowmanager to iconify a frame; thus there is no pressing need to assign C-z to iconify-or-deiconify-frame, since it usually does more harm than good. -- | ,__o | _-\_<, http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | (*)/'(*)