From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 encoded file names and UTF-8 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:05:41 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <7704-Sat08Mar2003111630+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047118112 17046 80.91.224.249 (8 Mar 2003 10:08:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 08 11:08:31 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rbFn-0004Qn-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:08:31 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18rbb1-0002kM-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:30:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbFG-0007x7-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:07:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbEz-0007wv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbEy-0007wg-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:07:40 -0500 Original-Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbEx-0007wc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:07:40 -0500 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18rbEx-0003eS-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:07:39 +0100 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 541AEA43E4; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:05:41 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <7704-Sat08Mar2003111630+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> ("Eli Zaretskii"'s message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:16:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12170 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12170 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> UTF-8 Emacs sometimes fails to manage ISO-8859-1 file names. > > What is "UTF-8 Emacs"? An Emacs (21.3.50) started this way LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 emacs Sorry for my private terminology. > Also, what is your value of file-name-coding-system? file-name-coding-system's value is nil *Coding system for encoding file names. If it is nil, `default-file-name-coding-system' (which see) is used. I did not set it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- cut here -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Additional remark (I'll file a more detailed report later, if the problem persists): Some days before I observed that Emacs "auto-corrects" broken .po files; the broken files are declared as UTF-8 and containing those codes and additionally some iso-8859-1 got mixed in by accident. Emacs displays those wrong characters "correctly" -- this is somehow "user-friendly" but nervertheless highly confusing. At least please add a special background to those auto-corrected characters. Is it only me who observed such a behavior? If this is desired behavior please point me to the documentation of this feature. I think both problems are related. -- ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*)