From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Max Nikulin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why not set Emacs development workflow based on the popular git forges (GitHub, Bitbucket, Gitlab, ect)? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 22:09:30 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87v93gfusa.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y28ctpuo.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36766"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 07 17:23:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcwA-0009Ma-3m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:23:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39856 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcw9-0002Pv-5Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:23:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcjI-0002yY-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:43988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcjG-0007Ix-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcjD-0001Cb-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:09:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ In-Reply-To: <87y28ctpuo.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.332, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274246 Archived-At: On 04/09/2021 20:47, Kévin Le Gouguec wrote: > Hongyi Zhao writes: > >> OTOH, Linux kernel [1] has >> already adopted GitHub as its development platform, which is also >> complete free and a classic example of successful free software. >> >> [1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux > > FTR: this is a read-only mirror. As the helpful bot that answers every > pull request there says: > >> Linux kernel development happens on mailing lists, rather than on >> GitHub - this GitHub repository is a read-only mirror that isn't used >> for accepting contributions. So that your change can become part of >> Linux, please email it to us as a patch. There is a technical reason why github is not suitable for Linux kernel (and it is hardly to applicable to Emacs): it is impossible to coordinate several groups of developers responsible for different subsystems using github flavor of pull requests and bugs. For email it is simply several Cc addresses: Daniel Vetter. Why Github can't host the Linux Kernel Community. August 8, 2017 https://blog.ffwll.ch/2017/08/github-why-cant-host-the-kernel.html Though such reasons were not discussed in Microsoft's proposal to use "modern" approach for Linux development: Relying on plain-text email is a 'barrier to entry' for kernel development, says Linux Foundation board member. Interview with Sarah Novotny. 2020-08-25 https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/25/linux_kernel_email/ These links are intended just to show that various project may have quite different reasons to resist development on github/gitlab despite some demand. I hope, it will not cause Microsoft & Linux flame here.