From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] When deleting in bookmark menu, prompt for confirmation.
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 11:28:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s6pfbp$1719$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zgxb67g2.fsf@gnu.org>
On 5/3/2021 10:41 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 03 May 2021 12:21:36 -0500
>>
>> Backward compatibility is a big deal in an API, but it's a much
>> smaller deal in an interactive interface behavior. Yes, users
>> will be prompted in a place where they weren't prompted before,
>> but the prompt is self-explanatory, and the old behavior was
>> needlessly dangerous -- it's easy to type "x" accidentally and
>> lose bookmarks marked for deletion before one had finalized the
>> list.
>
> Noted. But we are not going to change the default behavior in
> incompatible ways on my watch, sorry.
Just a random musing: would there be any sense in adding a global option
like `prefer-conservative-defaults' to Emacs 28 and mentioning it in the
NEWS so that, come Emacs 29, developers could make modestly
backwards-incompatible changes like this while keeping the old behavior
for people with `prefer-conservative-defaults' set to t (which they
hopefully set upon the release of Emacs 28)?
One downside I see right off the bat is that
`prefer-conservative-defaults' == t would roughly mean "keep Emacs like
it was in version 28", but a decade from now, someone might prefer Emacs
38 and want conservative defaults starting then. I suppose
`prefer-conservative-defaults' could specify a preferred version, and
`defcustom' could allow for multiple default values defined by
particular version ranges.
Either of these solutions would increase the maintenance burden somewhat
for those variables (the second especially), but no one is *required* to
make backwards-incompatible changes, so I'd hope this is only done when
a developer truly believes that the new behavior is better, and is
worried that existing users won't want to change.
This is somewhat academic for me, since I'm an existing user, and I
always read the NEWS upon upgrading so I know what, if anything, I'd
like to tweak. However, something like this could make it easier to
improve Emacs in ways that would make it more attractive to a new user.
Like I said, it's just a thought...
- Jim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-03 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-03 3:43 [PATCH] When deleting in bookmark menu, prompt for confirmation Karl Fogel
2021-05-03 9:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-03 12:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-03 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-04 7:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-04 16:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-03 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-03 12:47 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-03 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-03 15:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-03 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-03 17:21 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-03 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-03 18:28 ` Jim Porter [this message]
2021-05-03 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-03 19:01 ` Jim Porter
2021-05-03 20:52 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-05 5:24 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-05 8:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-05 19:37 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-05 20:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-05 21:38 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-05 23:17 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-05 23:25 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-06 6:52 ` Matthias Meulien
2021-05-06 15:29 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-08 20:46 ` Matthias Meulien
2021-05-09 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-09 18:37 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-09 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-25 5:38 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-25 12:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-25 20:24 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-26 11:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-26 19:33 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-07 17:42 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-07 22:24 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-08 6:13 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-06 8:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-06 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-07 8:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-07 12:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-09 9:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-09 15:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-09 18:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-10 8:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-07 17:40 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-05 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-05 21:43 ` Karl Fogel
2021-05-03 17:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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