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[45.49.59.204]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t7sm6213116pju.42.2020.06.05.08.27.35 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 05 Jun 2020 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 04 Jun 2020 23:12:34 -0400") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1031; envelope-from=bobnewell@bobnewell.net; helo=mail-pj1-x1031.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251907 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > This is not an issue for longer documents, since it doesn't crucially > matter > where the page breaks are in those. Just as a point of interest: page breaks definitely can matter in longer documents. I've done quite a number of books with Emacs/LaTeX, and in doing text layout I have to take into account widows and orphans--- for instance, having a single line of a paragraph at the bottom of a page is a no-no, and page breaks have to be manipulated to avoid bad typography. That said, I've found that even for longish books with many diagrams (my most extreme example was nearly 800 pages), the compile and view process was fast enough not to get in the way, and corrections and changes go very fast if using something like synctex (I believe that's the correct name). This is not to say that I don't see the need for WYSIWYG on graphics-intense publications; for instance I couldn't see doing a comic book in emacs. -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB