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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320079 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > We never really supported Windows 95, only Windows 98. So I don't > think it makes sense to introduce all this complexity now, just to add > Windows 95 to the soup. > > Or are you saying that there are problems on Windows 98 as well? Probably, yes. The Windows 95 portions of this change are only a fractoon of the whole, in all likelihood, but I cannot swear to either possibility as KernelEx dlls export plenty of functions called from w32*.c, and my searching revealed no symbol list for Windows 98 online, leaving me with no choice but to err on the side of caution.