From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Livshin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:45:11 +0200 Organization: The Church of God the Utterly Indifferent Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200301151043.TAA09856@etlken.m17n.org> <200301230602.PAA07755@etlken.m17n.org> <200301250049.JAA11674@etlken.m17n.org> <200302030017.JAA24252@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044298024 17680 80.91.224.249 (3 Feb 2003 18:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18flcT-0004aL-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 19:47:01 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18flkC-0002Na-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 19:55:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flcY-0002Q6-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flcC-0002Li-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:46:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flay-0001rI-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:45:29 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flan-0001oj-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18flYt-0004HR-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 19:43:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18flYp-0004H4-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 19:43:15 +0100 Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-copies-to: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.090011 (Oort Gnus v0.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:P1Nq0DMTtofxFbxYgobUnakQbjQ= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11328 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11328 Dave Love writes: > Miles Bader writes: > >> Is it worth the trouble? > > I'm confused by what's being discussed here, but it is surely worth > the trouble to have dired working properly in multibyte locales. I'm sorry for possibly asking a stupid question, but why does dired use `ls' *at* *all*? it looks like all the needed primitives are there in Emacs. changing dired to use those sounds (to the naive me) far easier than debugging Emacs<->ls interaction in all possible values of (language-environment X ls-version). just a thought, --m -- Being really good at C++ is like being really good at using rocks to sharpen sticks. -- Thant Tessman