From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, mark.lillibridge@hp.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs's handling of line numbers [from bug#5042]
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:52:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s2qf7ccd24b1004181052r9a8ddd30neac4f0b285b23fd8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sk6sbre3.fsf@gnu.org>
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 19:29, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> If that's the problem, we could disable narrowing/widening in Info
> mode.
Surely there are legitimate reasons why a user would want to use
narrowing to show just part of an Info node.
> (I'm not saying we should, but if we decided to do so, it would
> be IMO a better solution than a whole new infrastructure with two
> kinds of restrictions.)
OK, don't think of it as two kinds of restrictions, but the current
restriction user interface, and an additional elisp API to treat parts
of a buffer as a "virtual buffer" or some such.
> Actually, it happens to be a feature (more accurately, a basis for a
> feature), both in Info and in Rmail.
It is that feature inequivocally linked to being implemented via narrowing?
> But you will never be able to disallow widening completely, because
> the primitives are not going to go away, and there's nothing to
> prevent a motivated individual from invoking them, even if they are
> non-interactive.
Of course. You can always shoot your own foot. That's no reason not to
provide adequate abstractions.
> IOW, I don't see how the suggested duplicity will solve enough of the
> problem to justify the added complexity.
I'm not sure, either. It's hard to say beforehand whether adding that
would be a waste of resources (sort of like frame-local variables), or
an enabling technology for some kind of problems... A priori, it seems
like Info and rmail and some other packages could benefit from it.
Juanma
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-18 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-15 18:47 Emacs's handling of line numbers [from bug#5042] Mark Lillibridge
[not found] ` <jwvd4068dsr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-11 22:22 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-12 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-17 1:57 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-17 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-17 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-17 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-17 19:51 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-17 21:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-17 21:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-17 21:31 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 18:15 ` widen-one-level [was: Emacs's handling of line numbers] Drew Adams
2010-04-18 21:31 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-19 0:25 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 23:30 ` Davis Herring
2010-04-19 19:57 ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-19 20:22 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-19 22:52 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-19 1:56 ` Leo
2010-04-19 2:04 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-19 11:34 ` Leo
2010-04-19 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-19 17:57 ` Leo
2010-04-19 22:56 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-22 9:59 ` Leo
2010-04-18 3:12 ` Emacs's handling of line numbers [from bug#5042] Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 3:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18 8:05 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-18 13:44 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 13:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-18 16:40 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 14:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18 14:14 ` David Kastrup
2010-04-18 16:41 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 17:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18 21:29 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-18 13:45 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 17:52 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2010-04-18 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 17:00 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-18 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 18:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-22 2:17 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-22 8:06 ` David Kastrup
2010-04-22 8:38 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 8:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-06 18:18 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-06-07 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 1:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-07 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-09 2:20 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-06-09 3:44 ` Miles Bader
2010-06-09 2:19 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-06-09 6:37 ` Glenn Morris
2010-06-24 2:24 ` Mark Lillibridge
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=s2qf7ccd24b1004181052r9a8ddd30neac4f0b285b23fd8@mail.gmail.com \
--to=lekktu@gmail.com \
--cc=eliz@gnu.org \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=mark.lillibridge@hp.com \
--cc=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).