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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312983 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > OTOH, enacting a ban on particular abstractions will just about > guarantee that certain kinds of features will not be implemented. Not true. Maybe some individuals will be thus disinclined to, but even that's up for debate.