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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313895 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Meanwhile, I see few drawbacks to enabling it. Multiple, concurrent Emacs sessions will cease behaving in an orderly and predictable manner. It makes little sense for Emacs to provide features designed to enable such orderly operation, such as lock files, while undermining them by enabling recentf or savehist by default, both of which overwrite files other sessions might've generated with their own.