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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: "Bruno Haible" <bruno@clisp.org>,
	"Robert Pluim" <rpluim@gmail.com>,
	bug-gnulib@gnu.org, "Pádraig Brady" <P@draigbrady.com>,
	"Sven Joachim" <svenjoac@gmx.de>,
	64937@debbugs.gnu.org, "Natanael Copa" <natanael.copa@gmail.com>,
	"Emacs Development" <Emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Thorsten Kukuk" <kukuk@suse.com>
Subject: Re: boot time on Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 07:53:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s0d5y5n93j2.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8c927bb-5e44-f26d-837e-ae6b73e60add@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Wed, 9 Aug 2023 12:31:46 -0700")

Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> [For those cc'ed, the thread's at <https://bugs.gnu.org/64937#142>.]
>
> On 2023-08-09 07:29, Bruno Haible wrote:
>
>> And on Alpine Linux, while /var/run/utmp is empty, its time stamp is
>> essentially the boot time.
>> The approach used by Emacs, namely to look at the time stamp of
>> /var/run/random-seed, is therefore essentially one of the best
>> approaches.
>> It just needs to also look at /var/lib/systemd/random-seed and - on
>> Alpine
>> Linux - /var/run/utmp .
>
> Thanks for looking into this. Clearly Emacs had some catching up to
> do, since it was using a location for the random-seed file that
> current GNU/Linux distros no longer use. To try to fix this I
> installed the attached patch to Emacs master on Savannah.
>
> This patch does not address the problem for Alpine, nor I suspect for
> Android. I suppose Alpine could use the timestamp of /var/run/utmp (or
> is that /run/utmp?) but I don't know how 'configure' would reliably
> detect it's being built or cross-built for Alpine. I'll cc this to
> Natanael Copa, who does the Alpine ports for Emacs, to see whether he
> can give advice.
>
> Also, I don't know how Android records boot time so I'll cc this to Po
> Lu, the main developer for Emacs on Android.

The boot time is off limits to user programs on Android, for security
reasons.  It should suffice to undefine BOOT_TIME_FILE there.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-09 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87tttmpt5h.fsf@turtle.gmx.de>
     [not found] ` <20230808173430.GA27131@suse.com>
     [not found]   ` <26226778.6c9BZvbsD2@nimes>
     [not found]     ` <3732835.vtg8X0x55z@nimes>
2023-08-09 19:31       ` boot time on Linux Paul Eggert
2023-08-09 21:06         ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-09 23:53         ` Po Lu [this message]
2023-08-10  0:14           ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-10  2:14             ` Po Lu
2023-08-10  6:22               ` Paul Eggert
2023-08-10  6:58                 ` Po Lu
2023-08-10 10:30               ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-10 12:23                 ` bug#64937: " Po Lu via GNU coreutils Bug Reports
2023-08-10 12:25                   ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-10 13:04                     ` Po Lu
2023-08-10 14:12                       ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-11  8:27                         ` Po Lu
2023-08-10  9:30         ` Natanael Copa
2023-08-10  9:38           ` Po Lu
2023-08-10 10:05             ` Natanael Copa
2023-08-10 15:30           ` Bruno Haible

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