From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New files url.texi and org.texi Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:29:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <200412080412.iB84CUP06430@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200412122000.iBCK0n418370@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1102970577 30783 80.91.229.6 (13 Dec 2004 20:42:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 13 21:42:49 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cdwsm-0001oW-00 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:33:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cdx2t-0000QE-TQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:43:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Cdx2V-0000Jh-Bf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:43:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Cdx2T-0000Iq-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:43:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cdx2T-0000Hw-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:43:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [148.79.80.138] (helo=mserv7.dl.ac.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cdwoy-0007H6-Mf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:29:29 -0500 X-DL-MFrom: X-DL-Connect: Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk (albion.dl.ac.uk [148.79.80.39]) by mserv7.dl.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.8/[ref postmaster@dl.ac.uk]) with ESMTP id iBDKTEqw005141; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:29:18 GMT Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cdwoj-0008RW-00; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:29:13 +0000 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) X-CCLRC-SPAM-report: 0 : X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31083 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31083 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Are there _published_ printed versions of the MIME and URL manuals > available? To me, @xref would suggest that there are. I don't understand why. > The user can always produce hardcopy _himself_ using texi2dvi. > (Which is one of the reasons why we care about hardcopy even if > there is no published manual.) Of course, but I've no idea why that means you shouldn't use @{x,px,}ref. I'm pretty sure I confirmed with rms that external references should use the five-arg version of the @*ref commands when I was linking the extra manuals from the Emacs manual. > As I see it, @inforef means that there is no published > manual, so we refer to the info file. That's not what the manual says about it, and as it refers to an Info-only file, it isn't appropriate if you're producing HTML manuals. (I assume @inforef was intended for stuff that wasn't produced from Texinfo source.)