From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TODO additions Date: 31 Oct 2002 18:10:29 +0000 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200210291902.g9TJ2AY18220@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036091444 633 80.91.224.249 (31 Oct 2002 19:10:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187Ki5-00009W-00 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:10:29 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 187Knn-0000jv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:16:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 187KgA-0008Rv-00; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:08:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 187JyP-00050v-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:23:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 187Jmc-0002JP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:11:38 -0500 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 187Jm4-0002Dr-00; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:10:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187Jm1-0005kb-00; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:10:29 +0000 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200210291902.g9TJ2AY18220@rum.cs.yale.edu> Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9012 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9012 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > Whether we'll > ever be able to remove src/{s,m} is not relevant I think (it would be > good but is not a prerequisite to using autoconf/automake). The most important thing is to avoid the cpp preprocessing of .in files (which relies on there even being a cpp with the right behaviour). However, the current {s,m} system is a mess and it definitely contributes to the maintenance nightmare. A case in point is finding out how and why something is happening on an Irix 6 system. There's a horrible stack of s files involved, conflated with a non-orthogonal m file, processed in a way that's very hard to follow and debug. > I understand the legal issues, I don't... > but I still think that there has to be some way (either technical or > legal) to allow dynamic loading without endangering the overarching > goal of the FSF. Indeed. > I (and I guess Dave as well) can't try to solve the problem on the > legal side, but we can try to address it technically. Actually, I tried to address the legal issue with the technical approach of allowing either static or dynamic linking of identical module source. I thought that would make copyright issues clear as well as being clean from a programming point of view.