From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gnus update Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:57:23 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1890.1089689203@newt.com> <2914-Tue13Jul2004070451+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <3589.1089692661@newt.com> <2914-Tue13Jul2004215551+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <861xjfkpgu.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> <20040714220410.GA27263@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1090594696 29706 80.91.224.253 (23 Jul 2004 14:58:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 16:58:05 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bo1Ur-0007j1-00 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:58:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo1Xh-0000KA-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:01:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo1Xa-0000IS-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:00:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo1XX-0000Fq-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:00:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo1XX-0000Fn-CE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:00:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.79.80.39] (helo=albion.dl.ac.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bo1UE-0003FZ-M5; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bo1UC-0005JS-00; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:57:24 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:38:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:25904 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:25904 Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes: >> Is there a specific reason to expect >> that Dave's changes are already in the separate Gnus repository? There's specific reason to think they aren't (all). If I remember correctly, people who know more about Mule than I do rejected some Mule-related changes, probably from the Emacs 22 branch. I don't remember exactly, though. If this is about installing Gnus 5.10 in Emacs , you should be aware that significant changes were installed without copyright papers on file. I don't have examples, but larsi complained about it on the Gnus list, and I spotted examples subsequently. Papers may or may not have been got since, but that needs to be checked. (It was a real pain doing that for Gnus 5.9 and re-writing some bits. Part of the trouble is that CVS log entries are often unhelpful.) Also, the latest 5.10 version is fairly broken for me and isn't maintained as far as I can tell. I haven't had time/enthusiasm to debug the things which bit me as I don't understand a lot of the code these days. In fact, I'm not sure I understand actually how to use the most significant new features like the spam-processing and the PGP support. I think the documentation and customization support for it isn't good enough. I mention this so you're aware of a possible maintenance issue. > Dave has write access to Gnus' CVS and often does commits there. [I think I lost access, but it's definitely a long time since I committed anything.]