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From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: iso-8859-1 and non-latin-1 chars
Date: 15 Dec 2002 16:24:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzqlm2rfdx0.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200212090608.PAA24291@etlken.m17n.org

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> Even if we write out a proper escape seqeucne for
> unencodable characters in a file, those people who are not
> familiar with handling coding systems can't read the file
> correctly.  If he reads it without C-x RET c, it will be
> read as iso-2022-7bit or something like that, not as
> iso-latin-1-with-esc.  If he doesn't notice it, he will be
> in a big confusion.  If he reads it with C-x RET c
> iso-latin-1, the escape sequence is not decoded, thus he
> will see raw ESC codes.

Sure, but the cases I'm particularly thinking of are actually
programs, not interactive use.  I think it's better to get escape
codes, which can be reconstructed, than to get `?', which can't.  I
realize this won't work generally, and will be different for Emacs 22.
In Emacs 22, it would be reasonable to do what yudit does (as far as I
remember) and write representations of the unicodes involved as \uxxxx
or similar.

> So, my conclusion was that writing out those escape
> sequences not only violates the commonly accepted concept
> about a coding system,

What concept do you mean, exactly?

> but also doesn't help people that much.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-15 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-28 17:01 iso-8859-1 and non-latin-1 chars Dave Love
2002-12-02 15:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-06 16:38   ` Dave Love
2002-12-09  6:08     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-15 16:24       ` Dave Love [this message]
2002-12-16  0:42         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-19 22:35           ` Dave Love
2002-12-23  6:40             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-23 12:27               ` Dave Love
2002-12-25 13:05                 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-31 17:14                   ` Ken Stevens
2003-01-06 19:28                     ` Dave Love
2003-01-06 19:18                   ` Dave Love
2003-01-07 13:01                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-10 10:59                       ` Dave Love
2003-01-06 19:19                   ` Dave Love
2002-12-16 14:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-19 22:33           ` Dave Love
2002-12-16 16:42         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <E18LZqb-0007si-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
2002-12-15 16:25         ` Dave Love
2002-12-16 16:42           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]     ` <E18LCz8-0004It-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
2002-12-10 23:47       ` Dave Love
2002-12-11 20:39         ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-13  2:58           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-14 18:31             ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-17 11:41               ` None Kenichi Handa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-07 14:57 iso-8859-1 and non-latin-1 chars Stefan Monnier
2002-11-07 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-07 17:06   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-07 23:42     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-07 23:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-09 11:54       ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 20:32         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-11 10:19           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-11  4:00         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-12  5:47           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-18  0:08             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-18 19:09               ` Richard Stallman

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