From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Several serious problems Date: 04 Sep 2002 18:23:33 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208190748.QAA14278@etlken.m17n.org> <200208291325.WAA03596@etlken.m17n.org> <200208291732.g7THWRU11411@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208301436.g7UEaZt18518@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031160262 25494 127.0.0.1 (4 Sep 2002 17:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , keichwa@gmx.net, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mdt3-0006cf-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:24:17 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17meSL-00054a-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 20:00:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mdue-00020e-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mdsU-0001pA-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mdsS-0001oW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:23:41 -0400 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mdsP-0001o6-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:23:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mdsL-0000kP-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:23:33 +0100 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7478 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7478 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > > In that case, I wasted considerable time... I know, for instance, > > that people whinge that keyboard input doesn't conform to the buffer > > file coding system, and that other coding systems &c are needed -- > > windows-1252 probably most importantly. > > By "in RC" I meant "in RC as it currently stands", not "in RC before you > installed ucs-tables.el". So did I, or at least as it stood a few days ago. I don't understand this (or the rest of the message). It's a non sequitur as far as I can tell. > Please don't try and find offense where there isn't, it makes me > rather sad. I don't know what you mean. I'm just sticking up for a large set of users. However I guess they are likely to find offence if maintainers dismiss -- or appear to -- m17n features they need. As far as I know, my opinions are roughly the same as handa's -- apologies if not -- and he was the one proposing more changes in this case. I'm glad he eventually gets listened to, anyhow.