From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: 04 Oct 2002 23:22:40 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208090754.g797s6s11972@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208130030.JAA26246@etlken.m17n.org> <200209030615.PAA10378@etlken.m17n.org> <200209090057.JAA19467@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033770562 5612 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 22:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, raeburn@raeburn.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xawf-0001S5-00 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 00:29:17 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17xbiU-0007HM-00 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 01:18:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xauX-0002lh-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xaql-0000dl-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xaqQ-00088D-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:22:52 -0400 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xaqM-0007u8-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xaqG-0000PL-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:22:40 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8402 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8402 Richard Stallman writes: > > Would you please explain why we can't get rid of those charsets even > > after we have unified them into Unicode? > > Because people want to use them. > > You are being very terse. It is conceivable that you have a valid point, > but your words don't present it clearly and therefore I am not convinced. I don't see what more I can say. What other reason is there for adding charsets than users want or need them? I can't remember what charsets these were to justify each one; why do you want to get rid of them anyhow? I don't know why I should have to convince you anyway. These were probably not even ones I added. I have added some that are of limited interest, such as EBCDICs, but there's a point -- in the case of EBCDIC, as an example that doesn't work properly in Mule 5. If you don't trust me to know roughly what I'm doing, please find someone else to do the Mule donkey work. If you object to the whole design, then I don't see what's basically wrong with it, and it's too late to change it now. It even achieves things I didn't think would be feasible.