From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: 25 Sep 2002 23:49:09 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208090754.g797s6s11972@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208130030.JAA26246@etlken.m17n.org> <200209030615.PAA10378@etlken.m17n.org> <200209090057.JAA19467@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032994261 5776 127.0.0.1 (25 Sep 2002 22:51:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 22:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, raeburn@raeburn.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17uKzk-0001Uk-00 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 00:51:00 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17uLhC-0007u0-00 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 01:35:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17uKzr-0001cE-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17uKy5-0001QQ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:49:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17uKy3-0001Q5-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:49:16 -0400 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17uKy2-0001PH-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17uKxx-0004Wj-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:49:09 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8166 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8166 Richard Stallman writes: > Would you please explain why we can't get rid of those charsets even > after we have unified them into Unicode? Because people want to use them. You were complaining about charset information not being preserved, after all. > I would like to understand this. Handa had better speak to his design. I've mostly just read the implementation and thought it was sensible. > That is very abstract. I am trying to help solve concrete issues. > What is the concrete point on which you are not sure what to do? There are various issues, but going over and over them here isn't useful. I ask experts where it's that easy. The useful thing would be for people to do work on and with the implementation so solutions can be tried out and I'm afraid I'm currently unenthusiastic.