From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Several serious problems Date: 12 Sep 2002 23:43:53 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208190748.QAA14278@etlken.m17n.org> <200208291325.WAA03596@etlken.m17n.org> <200209020128.KAA08644@etlken.m17n.org> <200209052332.IAA15300@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031870696 2607 127.0.0.1 (12 Sep 2002 22:44:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@etl.go.jp, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, keichwa@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17pchi-0000fs-00 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:44:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17pdJI-0001WZ-00 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 01:23:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17pchr-00030Y-00; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17pcgo-0002yY-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17pcgm-0002yM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk ([148.79.80.39]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17pcgk-0002y4-00; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17pcgj-0002mG-00; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:43:53 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7874 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7874 Richard Stallman writes: > > Yes. But, that mode is on by default in RC too. > > Gosh. However, it appears to be done wrongly. Custom will show it > isn't on, and would turn it off if you tried to turn it on. Surely if > it's preloaded and meant to be the default, the defcustom initial > value should just be changed. > > That sounds right to me. Can you send a patch? I should have said `define-minor-mode', not defcustom. Just change :init-value nil to t and take out the function call from loadup.