From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MML charset tag regression Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:38:55 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <0F223D16-8C72-11D7-8F50-00039363E640@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053880635 31414 80.91.224.249 (25 May 2003 16:37:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, ding@gnus.org, jas@extundo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1382@lists.math.uh.edu Sun May 25 18:37:11 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19JyUh-00089m-00 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 18:37:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19JyWX-0004id-00; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:39:05 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19JyWS-0004iY-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:39:00 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 22984 invoked by alias); 25 May 2003 16:39:00 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 22975 invoked from network); 25 May 2003 16:39:00 -0000 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk (148.79.80.39) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 25 May 2003 16:39:00 -0000 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19JyWO-0006ms-00; Sun, 25 May 2003 17:38:56 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 23 May 2003 18:48:09 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52838 gmane.emacs.devel:14243 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14243 Richard Stallman writes: > Indeed, people want to make Emacs use Unicode. Emacs can/does use Unicode, even if it doesn't have complete support (what does?). This is largely orthogonal to the internal encoding, as I keep trying to point out. That's a red herring concerning the handling of X selections. > But it is unfair to say that not being based on Unicode is a > "problem". Indeed. However, the Unicode branch doesn't actually deal with compound text properly, because it doesn't do extended segments, and the released version is at best pretty confused about that and I think not correct. (Extended segments are not an extension to compound text, they're part of the specification, contrary to what the current code says.) Of course, something in XFree86 and/or gtk disobeys the CTEXT spec regarding them anyhow, which is another thing that should be fixed.