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From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: mariano@gnome.org, alexander.winston@comcast.net,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, danilo@gnome.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible UTF-8 CJK Regressions in Terminal Emulators
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 19:02:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzq4qpmgc80.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200406071300.WAA06332@etlken.m17n.org

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

>> Absolutely!  Then we can say "utf-8 is (almost) completely
>> supported"...  I think this is a very important thing.
>
> I think "completely" is still too strong even with preceding
> "(almost)".

I know what you mean, but I think that's the sort of thing that
encourages the established user confusion over encoding issues.

UTF-8 per se is fully supported up to some limit on the code point.
(I hope that's as large as the Emacs 22 maximum codepoint, but I don't
remember.)  Whether or not valid unicodes can be decoded into a
character Emacs can actually encode/display/input properly is a
different matter, and the feature should affect all relevant CCL
coding systems, especially UTF-16.

> Perhaps "utf-8 support is fairly good" or
> "Unicode BMP support is fairly good".

The latter is much better.  (Exceptions include at least: various
complex scripts, much of the CJK space (little used?), reliable
display of CJK e.g. with XFree86 10646-encoded fonts, locale support
(including customization of the font encodings preferred), and BIDI.)

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-08 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-03-18 15:34             ` Possible UTF-8 CJK Regressions in Terminal Emulators Dave Love
2004-04-07 12:30               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 11:27                 ` Dave Love
2004-04-09 11:28                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-07 12:27                     ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-07 12:36                       ` Miles Bader
2004-06-07 13:00                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-08 18:02                           ` Dave Love [this message]
2004-06-09  7:37                             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-09  9:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-06-10  0:20                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-08 17:56                       ` Dave Love
2004-06-09  7:24                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-12  2:41                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-12 13:46                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13  8:42                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-13 11:36                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 13:18                             ` Andreas Schwab
2004-06-14  1:05                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-13 20:39                             ` Luc Teirlinck

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