From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kelly Dean Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rant - Elisp terminology is deceptive Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:41:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422060183 22222 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2015 00:43:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 01:43:03 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YEooV-0004O4-9S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:42:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEooU-0007He-9i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:42:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEooQ-0007Gw-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:42:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEooL-0005xI-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:42:54 -0500 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::197]:50380) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEooK-0005vM-Uv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:42:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter32-d.gandi.net (mfilter32-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.163]) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C0E41C056; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:42:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter32-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by mfilter32-d.gandi.net (mfilter32-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jAb9Xqd1FXX2; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:42:46 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 66.220.3.179 Original-Received: from localhost (gm179.geneticmail.com [66.220.3.179]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26CD241C054; Sat, 24 Jan 2015 01:42:44 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::197 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181703 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > I tend to agree. This "default-value" and "setq-default" dates back > to the very beginning of time, tho. Would renaming them be acceptable, so long as the old names are kept as a= liases for backward compatibility? I don't think the names =E2=8C=9Cgloba= l-value=E2=8C=9D, =E2=8C=9Csetq-global=E2=8C=9D, and =E2=8C=9Cset-global=E2= =8C=9D would cause any confusion with any other concepts in Emacs, and th= ey're unlikely to conflict with anybody's custom code.